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“Screening Program Denied—What’s Your Take?”

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Posted 28 Nov 2025 at 20:33

Today the National Screening Committee said no to a national screening programme for prostate cancer. Also off the table is a programme targeting high risk men: black men and those with a family history of breast, prostate or ovarian cancer all of which double somebodies risk of prostate cancer. 

A 3 month public consultation process now begins so the decision is not final. If you disagree with the decision and want to help then please follow the link below to Prostate Cancer Research and add your name to the petition to lobby government.

Wes Streeting the Health Secretary will be making his decision in March 2026. 

https://act.prostate-cancer-research.org.uk/a/say-yes-to-screening

Also interesting to see people’s opinions and start debate on the recent decision…

User
Posted 29 Nov 2025 at 10:20

I am also uncertain about this. On a personal level I obviously decided to be tested and I believe that it is a good idea to get tested as long as you are well informed about the possible outcomes. I suspect that most men who have discovered that they have prostate cancer, especially those whose cancer had already spread, will be in favour of widespread testing.

But if I were the Health Secretary I would not be so sure that I would want to stimulate a huge increase in the number of men having prostatectomies and/or radiotherapy when most of this treatment would actually be unnecessary.

What I hope is that the testing will improve to the point where we can identify accurately those men who really need treatment and the majority who don't or could be safely put on Active Surveillance. When we reach that point ( and I think the tests are improving all the time so that we will get there) then introducing a screening programme will become a no-brainer.

User
Posted 29 Nov 2025 at 14:45

The PSA test is not accurate enough to be used as a screening tool. It is great for monitoring a known case of prostate cancer, not least of all because it is then a series of tests, and you are looking at trends not specific values.

Screening in a low risk group with an inaccurate test is very wasteful of resources. Screening in a high risk group with the inaccurate test is a lot more productive. Screening either group with an accurate test is very good.

Here is a bit of maths for people interested in why screening can be bad in a low risk group and good in a high risk group.

*The percentage for accuracy and prevalence in the groups are for illustrative purposes, they are not genuine figures*

Assume the PSA test gives 10% false positives, and you screen 100 young (low risk) men with a 1% chance of having PCa you will get 11 positive results, but 10 times as many are being treated (further investigated) for no good reason, compared to the 1 person with cancer.

Now give the same test to a high risk group, say men with BRCA genes. let's say 30% of men in that group have PCa . If you test 100 men you will get 37 positive results (30 genuine and 7 false from the healthy 70 people). In this case you are still over treating 19% (=7/37) of your patients.

In the other group you are over treating 1000% (=10/1) of patients.

To put it another way it costs 50 times more to save one life if you screen the low risk group compared to the high risk group.

We need a more accurate test, and failing that we need to screen only high risk groups.

Dave

User
Posted 28 Nov 2025 at 20:33

Today the National Screening Committee said no to a national screening programme for prostate cancer. Also off the table is a programme targeting high risk men: black men and those with a family history of breast, prostate or ovarian cancer all of which double somebodies risk of prostate cancer. 

A 3 month public consultation process now begins so the decision is not final. If you disagree with the decision and want to help then please follow the link below to Prostate Cancer Research and add your name to the petition to lobby government.

Wes Streeting the Health Secretary will be making his decision in March 2026. 

https://act.prostate-cancer-research.org.uk/a/say-yes-to-screening

Also interesting to see people’s opinions and start debate on the recent decision…

User
Posted 28 Nov 2025 at 23:51

Hi Darren.

My dad had prostate cancer. So did me and my younger brother. I have two sons, both in their earlier forties. I've warned them they may be at higher risk. 

I'm not sure whether they will get tested or not. Knowing them as I do, I doubt, even if screening had been approved, it would affect their testing decisions.

I doubt that they'll be much of a debate on a prostate cancer forum of which way we should go. Somewhere along the line, we'll probably hear "If it just saves one life, it'll be worth it.", and you cant really argue with that.

You mentioned the more susceptible group including those with a family history of breast cancer and ovarian cancer. Ironically, I think they've just scrapped ovarian screening as it was deemed ineffective and only had a 16% uptake. Breast and bowel cancer screening uptakes are much higher at about 65%. However, research consistently shows that men are not as less likely as women to seek any medical attention including participation in screening programmes. Even if prostate cancer screening was introduced, I suspect the majority of men will not participate. 

Personally, I can see the advantages and disadvantages of screening. Prostate Cancer UK supports screening, Cancer Research UK doesn't. 

https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2024/04/06/prostate-cancer-screening-save-lives/#:~:text=But%20currently%20the%20UK%20National%20Screening%20Committee,the%20benefits%20do%20not%20outweigh%20the%20harms.

In my opinion, the argument is in the balance. However, I doubt whether Wes Streeting will overule the National Screening Committee's decision. Call me a cynic if you want, but PSA screening isn't a vote winner, and although it could be argued that in the long term it may save NHS costs, it will be very expensive in the short term.

On a personal note, Darren, I admire the hard work and support that you've given to our charity's campaign for screening. I was very moved by your speech to the NSC. You must feel disappointed, that at this stage, your heartfelt plea, appears to have fallen on deaf ears.

Good luck, mate.👍

Edited by member 29 Nov 2025 at 15:29  | Reason: Add link

User
Posted 29 Nov 2025 at 17:56

Some really interesting and valid points there chaps. It’s such a difficult one isn’t it. The real push has been for screening of high risk groups not all men above 45 which I’m not sure has landed with the NSC messaging.

I think the mantra is don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good. Acknowledging the limitations of PSA but when targeted carefully in a pro active way backed up with MRI there could be a case there. The costing has been done and seems doable.

If Wes decides against this in March then perhaps the results of the TRANSFORM trial will help influence a decision on screening. Also some exciting innovations around less grey imaging.

On a plus it’s great there is such a big national conversation going on around this infernal disease. 

 

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User
Posted 28 Nov 2025 at 23:51

Hi Darren.

My dad had prostate cancer. So did me and my younger brother. I have two sons, both in their earlier forties. I've warned them they may be at higher risk. 

I'm not sure whether they will get tested or not. Knowing them as I do, I doubt, even if screening had been approved, it would affect their testing decisions.

I doubt that they'll be much of a debate on a prostate cancer forum of which way we should go. Somewhere along the line, we'll probably hear "If it just saves one life, it'll be worth it.", and you cant really argue with that.

You mentioned the more susceptible group including those with a family history of breast cancer and ovarian cancer. Ironically, I think they've just scrapped ovarian screening as it was deemed ineffective and only had a 16% uptake. Breast and bowel cancer screening uptakes are much higher at about 65%. However, research consistently shows that men are not as less likely as women to seek any medical attention including participation in screening programmes. Even if prostate cancer screening was introduced, I suspect the majority of men will not participate. 

Personally, I can see the advantages and disadvantages of screening. Prostate Cancer UK supports screening, Cancer Research UK doesn't. 

https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2024/04/06/prostate-cancer-screening-save-lives/#:~:text=But%20currently%20the%20UK%20National%20Screening%20Committee,the%20benefits%20do%20not%20outweigh%20the%20harms.

In my opinion, the argument is in the balance. However, I doubt whether Wes Streeting will overule the National Screening Committee's decision. Call me a cynic if you want, but PSA screening isn't a vote winner, and although it could be argued that in the long term it may save NHS costs, it will be very expensive in the short term.

On a personal note, Darren, I admire the hard work and support that you've given to our charity's campaign for screening. I was very moved by your speech to the NSC. You must feel disappointed, that at this stage, your heartfelt plea, appears to have fallen on deaf ears.

Good luck, mate.👍

Edited by member 29 Nov 2025 at 15:29  | Reason: Add link

User
Posted 29 Nov 2025 at 10:20

I am also uncertain about this. On a personal level I obviously decided to be tested and I believe that it is a good idea to get tested as long as you are well informed about the possible outcomes. I suspect that most men who have discovered that they have prostate cancer, especially those whose cancer had already spread, will be in favour of widespread testing.

But if I were the Health Secretary I would not be so sure that I would want to stimulate a huge increase in the number of men having prostatectomies and/or radiotherapy when most of this treatment would actually be unnecessary.

What I hope is that the testing will improve to the point where we can identify accurately those men who really need treatment and the majority who don't or could be safely put on Active Surveillance. When we reach that point ( and I think the tests are improving all the time so that we will get there) then introducing a screening programme will become a no-brainer.

User
Posted 29 Nov 2025 at 14:45

The PSA test is not accurate enough to be used as a screening tool. It is great for monitoring a known case of prostate cancer, not least of all because it is then a series of tests, and you are looking at trends not specific values.

Screening in a low risk group with an inaccurate test is very wasteful of resources. Screening in a high risk group with the inaccurate test is a lot more productive. Screening either group with an accurate test is very good.

Here is a bit of maths for people interested in why screening can be bad in a low risk group and good in a high risk group.

*The percentage for accuracy and prevalence in the groups are for illustrative purposes, they are not genuine figures*

Assume the PSA test gives 10% false positives, and you screen 100 young (low risk) men with a 1% chance of having PCa you will get 11 positive results, but 10 times as many are being treated (further investigated) for no good reason, compared to the 1 person with cancer.

Now give the same test to a high risk group, say men with BRCA genes. let's say 30% of men in that group have PCa . If you test 100 men you will get 37 positive results (30 genuine and 7 false from the healthy 70 people). In this case you are still over treating 19% (=7/37) of your patients.

In the other group you are over treating 1000% (=10/1) of patients.

To put it another way it costs 50 times more to save one life if you screen the low risk group compared to the high risk group.

We need a more accurate test, and failing that we need to screen only high risk groups.

Dave

User
Posted 29 Nov 2025 at 17:56

Some really interesting and valid points there chaps. It’s such a difficult one isn’t it. The real push has been for screening of high risk groups not all men above 45 which I’m not sure has landed with the NSC messaging.

I think the mantra is don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good. Acknowledging the limitations of PSA but when targeted carefully in a pro active way backed up with MRI there could be a case there. The costing has been done and seems doable.

If Wes decides against this in March then perhaps the results of the TRANSFORM trial will help influence a decision on screening. Also some exciting innovations around less grey imaging.

On a plus it’s great there is such a big national conversation going on around this infernal disease. 

 

User
Posted 30 Nov 2025 at 16:31

On the forum in my time there were many robust debates on PSA testing.  I was never convinced it was right.

I'm pleased to read the disadvantages are being being made more clear.

As my profile shows aged 58 (2004) G8 PSA 6.1. So yes survived 20 plus years but that's 20 plus years of frequent loo visits and ED of which meds have limited use on either.

A price worth paying?

Ray

User
Posted 30 Nov 2025 at 21:26

I was interested in the 'over treatment' words being bandied around on news reports. Then started wondering how many on here could count themselves in that category. In my own case the cancer was contained in the prostate in which case I ask myself when was the correct time to take action?

User
Posted 05 Dec 2025 at 12:54

Interesting to see the range of views here.  As someone who was totally asymptomatic and undiagnosed at 50 and then diagnosed and incurable by 52, I was really hoping for a different outcome from the NSC.  It's quite probable that whole population screening at 50 would have changed my life.  Of course, none of us know for sure.

I work in evidence-based medicine, so I can also understand the need for the NSC to balance the costs and harms of over-diagnosis/over-treatment for many men against the benefits for those with aggressive disease like me.

A couple of things that struck me:

1. Looks like gene (BRCA1 BRCA2) -targetted screening will be introduced first - so if you find out your genotype and if you fall into these groups, you can encourage your brothers, sons, etc to get gene-tested.

2. Most of the evidence relied on by the NSC is a bit old now. The ongoing TRANSFORM study has the potential to widen access to screening.  But only if men take up the screening invitation.  The existing estimate is that just 36% will. It needs to be higher - so spread the word and encourage anyone who gets the invite to get tested.

https://prostatecanceruk.org/research/transform-trial

 

 

 

User
Posted 06 Dec 2025 at 12:13

What gets me is Ok they say they will screen defective BRCA gene people but how are those people going to  know they have the subtype in the first place? I don't know if I have. It isn't routinely offered,

Are they going to screen the entire over 45 male population for the gene?

If not how effective would it be to increase uptake/treatment of the more at risk men.

Edited by member 06 Dec 2025 at 12:35  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 06 Dec 2025 at 22:51

That's a fair point. It is available on the NHS but the criteria are tight.

https://www.nhs.uk/tests-and-treatments/genetic-tests-for-cancer-risk/

 
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