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What constitutes a big jump in PSA ?

User
Posted 16 Dec 2025 at 16:00

Hello,

Just catching up since I was diagnosed with stage 1 this time last year.  At the time the urologist said it was a slow growing and low risk cancer and I would be on active surveillance.  At the time PSA was 5.3 and it is now 6.4.  This might not seem much as I fully appreciate there are folk out there with much bigger and scarier numbers but my brother's PSA was only around 10/11 when he was diagnosed age 49 and by then it was already too late as the cancer had already spread.  I am awaiting the latest letter from the urologist to see what they plan to do next but wanted to reach out to see if anyone out there has had a similar experience with (relatively) low PSA and at what point anything happened re treatment ? 

Also does anyone have experience of the "aggressive" gene they are talking about in the news and how to get tested for this ?`

Many thanks in advance

Richard (age 61)

User
Posted 16 Dec 2025 at 20:43
Make sure you are getting regular MRI and possibly biopsy too. Active surveillance only works if it is "active"
User
Posted 17 Dec 2025 at 17:25

Men do naturally produce a progressively increased PSA as they age but some types of PCa result in higher PSA than others and usually the higher the figure the greater chance of PCa and spread.

As regards the BRCA gene, see here https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information-and-support/risk-and-symptoms/are-you-at-risk/brca-genes-and-prostate-cancer-risk

 

Edited by member 17 Dec 2025 at 17:26  | Reason: to highlight link

Barry
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Posted 17 Dec 2025 at 18:18

Hello Rich64

Even though this is not a 'big' jump ..  your psa is higher than it should be.  Another problem is that the biopsy cannot be relied on... in reality you should get a PSMA-PET scan to make sure that it is not spreading but that is not always easy.

Good luck..

Crispin

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Posted 17 Dec 2025 at 23:46

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hello Rich64

Even though this is not a 'big' jump ..  your psa is higher than it should be.  Another problem is that the biopsy cannot be relied on... in reality you should get a PSMA-PET scan to make sure that it is not spreading but that is not always easy.

Good luck..

Crispin

There may come a time when a PSMA scan is given earlier but at present, in a case like this, one would struggle to get one on the NHS in the UK at Rich's reading and histology.

Barry
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User
Posted 16 Dec 2025 at 20:43
Make sure you are getting regular MRI and possibly biopsy too. Active surveillance only works if it is "active"
User
Posted 17 Dec 2025 at 17:25

Men do naturally produce a progressively increased PSA as they age but some types of PCa result in higher PSA than others and usually the higher the figure the greater chance of PCa and spread.

As regards the BRCA gene, see here https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information-and-support/risk-and-symptoms/are-you-at-risk/brca-genes-and-prostate-cancer-risk

 

Edited by member 17 Dec 2025 at 17:26  | Reason: to highlight link

Barry
User
Posted 17 Dec 2025 at 18:18

Hello Rich64

Even though this is not a 'big' jump ..  your psa is higher than it should be.  Another problem is that the biopsy cannot be relied on... in reality you should get a PSMA-PET scan to make sure that it is not spreading but that is not always easy.

Good luck..

Crispin

User
Posted 17 Dec 2025 at 20:59

Hi Rich,

I can understand your concern, mate. I've got a family history of the disease. My dad and younger brother had it. It's what finished my dad off. So far, me and my brother have survived it and doing fine.

Like you, I was initially diagnosed with low grade, low volume, Gleason 6(3+3) my PSA was only 5.6. The cancer was prostate confined and I went on active surveillance. 

My PSA fluctuated between 6 and 7. About two years later, a belated follow-up MRI showed disease progression. A follow-up biopsy confirmed this. The disease was eventually graded Gleason 9(4+5) and had breached the capsule. I had RARP.

Despite my AS failure, so long as you are closely monitored, I'm still a great fan of it.

I'm not medically trained, but from my experience and from what I've learnt about the disease, I'd be asking for a follow up MRI and if necessary a follow-up biopsy. 

Your slight rise over the past year or so could be caused by a non-cancerous prostate conditions such as BPH. It could be that your low grade cancer has just got a bit bigger and producing slightly more PSA. It could be that your initial biopsy, like mine, missed higher grade cancer cells, which could also elevate PSA levels.

I think the current NICE guidelines recommend a follow-up MRI between a year and 18 months after starting AS so you're about due one anyway.

It's a tragedy about your brother, but I wouldn't worry too much that you have exactly the same aggressive cancer that he obviously had. By all means stress your concern to the 'powers that be' and they may decide it's worthy of genetic checks.

Good luck, mate.👍

Please keep us updated.

Edited by member 17 Dec 2025 at 22:56  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 17 Dec 2025 at 23:46

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hello Rich64

Even though this is not a 'big' jump ..  your psa is higher than it should be.  Another problem is that the biopsy cannot be relied on... in reality you should get a PSMA-PET scan to make sure that it is not spreading but that is not always easy.

Good luck..

Crispin

There may come a time when a PSMA scan is given earlier but at present, in a case like this, one would struggle to get one on the NHS in the UK at Rich's reading and histology.

Barry
User
Posted 18 Dec 2025 at 08:36

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for that - appreciate you letting me know. 

I am having a few issues which may well not be prostate related (e.g., lower back pain - as I am a keen runner back pain is not a new issue but this time it is not going away) but cannot work out what else it could be having seen various "specialists" over the last few months re osteopaths, physios etc and with the slight rise in PSA keen to find out what is happening. 

This may well be paranoia on my part as other friends who have been diagnosed had PSA scores from 140 - 170 and my score still feels very low in comparison.  It is useful to know a low score could still be significant.  My latest results (I get tested every 3 months) only came in last week so still to hear back from the urologist on next steps.  It will either be to wait another 3 months (!) or hopefully move on to another MRI / biopsy.  My previous MRI came back clear when PSA was 5.3 and it was the biopsy that scored an initial hit.  

Interesting times, .....................

Thanks again.

User
Posted 18 Dec 2025 at 08:37

Good to know guys - thanks

 
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