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Posted 07 Apr 2026 at 21:56

Not to be confused with some 80s electro synth band!

Has anyone had any experience of intermittent ADT or have any views on this? I’ve had some recent very encouraging scans not showing any nodal or bony deposits where there used to be along with 10 months of undetectable PSA (<0.05). This has got me thinking about whether to trial a break from my Prostap.

I’ve been on it just over 2 years now and although the day to day isn’t to bad, my fitness has dropped with quite a bit of fatigue. I am wiped out a bit after work but just keep running and trying to weight train.

I know there’s research to suggest that staying on the Prostap long term, the micromets ultimately will spread and hormone resistance could kick in. Also some research to suggest that coming off all hormones may shock the clones and extend durable remission. 

The thought of coming off it is very appealing but equally terrifying at the same time. I’m Gleason 9 which is the risky aspect. Oligometastatic though so very limited spread and BRCA negative. Appreciate this might be a niche topic but if anyone has any views it would help inform my Oncology conversation. Thanks all.

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Posted 08 Apr 2026 at 09:13

I've come across a number of men on Intermittent Hormone Therapy (IHT). It's suitable for men on lifelong hormone therapy whose PSA has stayed very low, and only rises slowly when exposed to Testosterone. The original trials showed that in this cohort of suitable men, it didn't significantly shorten life, but gave a better QoL.

If you are on any of the ARPI's (Abiraterone, Enzalutamide, Apalutamide, Darolutamide), there's a problem that once you stop, you won't be able to restart them again (NHS rules won't fund them again), so that's going to be a factor for some people to consider.

I talked with an Oncologist about it a few years ago, and he said his IHT patients spend longer off HT than on, although that predates Relugolix so some significant proportion of the 'off' time with have been waiting for recovery of Testosterone. More recently, I've seen men switching to IHT have been switched to Relugolix, because the Testosterone recovery time is faster.

Usually the way it works is once you've had a very low PSA for a couple of years, you would be considered for IHT (although you usually have to ask rather than it being proactive on their part). Then you agree an upper limit on your PSA with your oncologist which might be something like 5, 10, or 20 (depending on your age and what your original PSA was), and then you stay off the HT until you reach that level, and then you go back on. You then stay on until your PSA has become very low again for some period such as 6 months.

There was originally some thought this would prevent or at least push out the point where you became castrate resistant. That wasn't seen, but it didn't bring it forward either. In terms of how long men lived on IHT as opposed to full HT, it was only very slightly shorter but the quality of life was significantly improved.

IHT is not the same as Bipolar Androgen Therapy (BAT), where you are more quickly cycled between high and castrate levels of Testosterone. This switching is done more quickly than your body can recover Testosterone naturally, so you stay on hormone therapy all the time, but have Testosterone injections to create the recovery periods. The idea here was to prevent becoming castrate resistant, or even reverse it. The only person I've heard of in the UK who tried BAT was on this forum and convinced his oncologist to let him try it, but sadly died during the first Testosterone boost when his cancer went rampant. It was very late in the day when he tried it though.

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Posted 08 Apr 2026 at 23:11

The support and advice on this forum never fails to amaze me. Thank you all.

It’s reassuring to hear this is a reasonably well‑trodden treatment option, at least in certain cases. Barry and Dave, I agree this needs a discussion with my oncologist, although I’m increasingly comfortable proceeding even if they’re not entirely on board, provided the evidence supports it. I’ve disagreed with my onco before after excellent advice here and a second opinion from the Royal Marsden on metastasis‑directed RT which has so far delivered good results. That said, I value their input hugely and we have a strong relationship.

Dave, I know my team would be open to discussing approaches like intermittent hormone therapy, but I agree it wouldn’t be initiated by them, I’d need to make the case. As with my self‑funded PSMA PETs and RT to all tumour burden, there seems to be a level of self‑advocacy required that I haven’t seen elsewhere in the health system. I’m not sure whether that’s locality‑specific.

Jules, I imagine the Prostap break would be for as long as is safe, whatever that turns out to be. I’m not sure how long people typically stay off ADT before PSA rises. My concern is the long‑term effects: bone health is fine for now, but cholesterol has crept up, and I know there are thyroid and diabetes risks too. The fatigue is a challenge but equally if I were told I had to deal with it I would. I’d be comfortable with monthly PSA checks if recommended, the GP surgery is on my route to work. I try, where possible, to make this disease fit around my life rather than the other way round, probably a control thing.

Thanks Adrian for your kind words and for the video link, I’ll watch it with my wife. I’ve found Dr Scholz’s videos extremely helpful in past treatment decisions.

Crispin, I’m currently on Prostap only. Bicalutamide was used briefly at diagnosis to put the brakes on. I was offered a second‑generation hormone post chemo/radiotherapy, but we agreed to keep it in reserve. I know some advocate adding Enza or Abi alongside Prostap, and I think I’d be eligible. I hope you reach a decision on Decapeptyl. I completely understand why oncos in England, Germany, or France would worry about fuelling micromet growth, even with a low PSA. For us as patients, getting as close as possible to normal quality of life, reducing medication where safely possible, and carefully balancing risk while avoiding spread feels like the dream scenario.

Andy, thanks, perhaps 10 months of low PSA isn’t considered long enough. Relugolix is interesting; I wasn’t aware it could speed testosterone recovery. Agree that defining an upper PSA limit with my onco would be essential. Any rise would horrify me, but I’d have to get past that if I pursue this route. My presenting PSA was 31, and I’m 46 years old. The fact that this approach doesn’t seem to impact overall survival is probably why it appeals to me.

Well Onco phone call next week, will update on progress with this. Thanks again all. 

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Posted 07 Apr 2026 at 23:47
We have had several men on this Forum who have been on intermittent HT and have enjoyed HT holidays, They usually revert to RT when their PSA reaches a level they have preagreed with their Oncologists. Hopefully, anybody who has or is adopting this plan, will relate their experience but it is Oncologists who will be best placed to advise how well it works generally and your Oncologist to say how you might benefit.
Barry
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Posted 07 Apr 2026 at 23:56

There have been posts on here from people who have had hormone holidays, but not too many (Barry has been here longer, so has seen more). It doesn't seem to be on most oncologists radar. My guess is that most oncologists want to stick with the tried and trusted method of staying on HT. I think those who have had hormone holidays, have had to push quite hard.

If you can do a lot of research, and absolutely understand the risks, and convince the oncologist that you know what your talking about (asking the question here was a good start) then you may get the oncologist on board.

In the end it is your body, and your choice how you are treated, but I would prefer do that with the agreement of the oncologist rather than without it.

Dave

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Posted 08 Apr 2026 at 07:39

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
with 10 months of undetectable PSA (<0.05).

I was in a similar position to you as a G9. After 2 years of ADT it's probably going to take a year for your testosterone to reappear and along with that a rise in psa. I believe there are some cases in which the rise can be faster.

I don't know how long you want to go on holiday for but something like 6 months would seem quite safe for most people and as long as you have psa tests you wouldn't get a nasty surprise. 

The side effects of ADT are serious and often ignored. Some of them disappear after the end of treatment but others can leave life-long effects, like lower bone density or raised cholesterol. Yes, there are pills to counter these problems but I reckon there are good reasons to take a holiday. 

Jules

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Posted 08 Apr 2026 at 07:54

Hi Darren.

I'm so pleased to see that your PSA has now dropped to undetectable.

This video may help?

In it Dr Scholz mention the results of recent trials into intermittent hormone therapy.

https://youtu.be/k92ETEqVYJ4?si=CEZrGpK-YRX0yAg6

Good luck, with whatever you decide. 👍

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Posted 08 Apr 2026 at 08:00

Hello Darren1664

I think you have formulated a useful question - although it may only affect a small percentage of cases.  I am not sure if you are still on Bicalutamide that you started on 05/01/2023 - or just on Prostap.  I am on Enzalutamide and an injection of Decapeptyl.  My psa is now < 0.01 ng/ml  so I want to stop the Decapeptyl.  I will discuss this with my French oncologist in May but I am sure she will want me to continue.  The German Professors who treated me tell me that the enzalutamide is sufficient and I should stop the Decapeptyl...

To be continued.

Best

Crispin

 

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Posted 08 Apr 2026 at 09:13

I've come across a number of men on Intermittent Hormone Therapy (IHT). It's suitable for men on lifelong hormone therapy whose PSA has stayed very low, and only rises slowly when exposed to Testosterone. The original trials showed that in this cohort of suitable men, it didn't significantly shorten life, but gave a better QoL.

If you are on any of the ARPI's (Abiraterone, Enzalutamide, Apalutamide, Darolutamide), there's a problem that once you stop, you won't be able to restart them again (NHS rules won't fund them again), so that's going to be a factor for some people to consider.

I talked with an Oncologist about it a few years ago, and he said his IHT patients spend longer off HT than on, although that predates Relugolix so some significant proportion of the 'off' time with have been waiting for recovery of Testosterone. More recently, I've seen men switching to IHT have been switched to Relugolix, because the Testosterone recovery time is faster.

Usually the way it works is once you've had a very low PSA for a couple of years, you would be considered for IHT (although you usually have to ask rather than it being proactive on their part). Then you agree an upper limit on your PSA with your oncologist which might be something like 5, 10, or 20 (depending on your age and what your original PSA was), and then you stay off the HT until you reach that level, and then you go back on. You then stay on until your PSA has become very low again for some period such as 6 months.

There was originally some thought this would prevent or at least push out the point where you became castrate resistant. That wasn't seen, but it didn't bring it forward either. In terms of how long men lived on IHT as opposed to full HT, it was only very slightly shorter but the quality of life was significantly improved.

IHT is not the same as Bipolar Androgen Therapy (BAT), where you are more quickly cycled between high and castrate levels of Testosterone. This switching is done more quickly than your body can recover Testosterone naturally, so you stay on hormone therapy all the time, but have Testosterone injections to create the recovery periods. The idea here was to prevent becoming castrate resistant, or even reverse it. The only person I've heard of in the UK who tried BAT was on this forum and convinced his oncologist to let him try it, but sadly died during the first Testosterone boost when his cancer went rampant. It was very late in the day when he tried it though.

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Posted 08 Apr 2026 at 09:19
That's a helpful link you have found Adrian. It shows that HT, holidays may work for some people but like so much else with PCa it can depend on what HT the patient is on and his PSA/Testosterone profile. So somebody considering this regime should discuss this with his Oncologist.
Barry
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Posted 08 Apr 2026 at 23:11

The support and advice on this forum never fails to amaze me. Thank you all.

It’s reassuring to hear this is a reasonably well‑trodden treatment option, at least in certain cases. Barry and Dave, I agree this needs a discussion with my oncologist, although I’m increasingly comfortable proceeding even if they’re not entirely on board, provided the evidence supports it. I’ve disagreed with my onco before after excellent advice here and a second opinion from the Royal Marsden on metastasis‑directed RT which has so far delivered good results. That said, I value their input hugely and we have a strong relationship.

Dave, I know my team would be open to discussing approaches like intermittent hormone therapy, but I agree it wouldn’t be initiated by them, I’d need to make the case. As with my self‑funded PSMA PETs and RT to all tumour burden, there seems to be a level of self‑advocacy required that I haven’t seen elsewhere in the health system. I’m not sure whether that’s locality‑specific.

Jules, I imagine the Prostap break would be for as long as is safe, whatever that turns out to be. I’m not sure how long people typically stay off ADT before PSA rises. My concern is the long‑term effects: bone health is fine for now, but cholesterol has crept up, and I know there are thyroid and diabetes risks too. The fatigue is a challenge but equally if I were told I had to deal with it I would. I’d be comfortable with monthly PSA checks if recommended, the GP surgery is on my route to work. I try, where possible, to make this disease fit around my life rather than the other way round, probably a control thing.

Thanks Adrian for your kind words and for the video link, I’ll watch it with my wife. I’ve found Dr Scholz’s videos extremely helpful in past treatment decisions.

Crispin, I’m currently on Prostap only. Bicalutamide was used briefly at diagnosis to put the brakes on. I was offered a second‑generation hormone post chemo/radiotherapy, but we agreed to keep it in reserve. I know some advocate adding Enza or Abi alongside Prostap, and I think I’d be eligible. I hope you reach a decision on Decapeptyl. I completely understand why oncos in England, Germany, or France would worry about fuelling micromet growth, even with a low PSA. For us as patients, getting as close as possible to normal quality of life, reducing medication where safely possible, and carefully balancing risk while avoiding spread feels like the dream scenario.

Andy, thanks, perhaps 10 months of low PSA isn’t considered long enough. Relugolix is interesting; I wasn’t aware it could speed testosterone recovery. Agree that defining an upper PSA limit with my onco would be essential. Any rise would horrify me, but I’d have to get past that if I pursue this route. My presenting PSA was 31, and I’m 46 years old. The fact that this approach doesn’t seem to impact overall survival is probably why it appeals to me.

Well Onco phone call next week, will update on progress with this. Thanks again all. 

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Posted 09 Apr 2026 at 09:08
Regarding the NHS and Abi, Daro, Enzo holidays, if you were on it and really wanted to try a "hormone holiday" why not just take the holiday but keep picking up the prescription too?

NHS would never know any better.

 
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