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Thinking about your own mortality.

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Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 12:02

As we get older, I suppose most of us, tend to think more about our own mortality.  I suspect these thoughts increase following a diagnosis of prostate cancer.

Is it a good thing or do find it depressing?

 

 

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Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 15:53

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
What it has done is to increase my awareness and empathy for those sufferers whose prognosis is not so favourable.

Me too, mate. Especially younger men, who've been diagnosed.

The other day, I found a very old conversation on here. The opening post brought me to tears. 

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t6254-Death--what-do-y-all-know-about-death

The bit from Mark's post that really got me me was this:

I think and worry about my Deb sorting out my clothes, books, my silly model making stuff, my nerdy computer stuff and importantly my little box of mementoes that I keep very private, these include some of my Dad's wartime things, some love letters, my tungsten darts and photos of my 71\2lb record barbel and a 6lb chub. It probably means nothing to anyone but me, will someone one day find it, see my Dads cap badge and think its junk, photos straight in the bin, letters half read and joining the other stuff in the bin.

I've got a couple of old shoe boxes, decorated in Xmas wrapping paper. They are in the attic under a pile of junk. In them I've kept drawings from my kids and grandkids. Love letters and poems from my wife. Homemade Valentine's cards. Letters of thanks from people I'd helped during my career. Local newspaper clippings of my cricketing 'greatest moments' (they're aren't many of those. 🙂) Letters from my late  mum and dad.

'This is your life' in two battered boxes.

I suppose on top of that, hanging on the walls, there are few pieces of artwork I've done. A full set of series 3 Super Zings, I collected with my grandson when he was about four and his first pair of football boots and goalie gloves. And lots of photo albums, many including snap shots of me doing daft. things. 

Edited by member 28 Jul 2026 at 16:50  | Reason: Add link.

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Posted 29 Jul 2026 at 02:51

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

 

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t6254-Death--what-do-y-all-know-about-death

Sadly, many of the people who contributed to that thread directly or who were represented by a relative have died prematurely. I had the pleasure of meeting some of them when we met annually in Leicester. I found that reading through that poignant thread again is a reminder of our vulnerability, even if treatment gives us some extra years.  It seems sensible to prepare to make it easier for family, even if we cling on to a few mementoes that they will not want.  It's like a lot of things, get it done and you can more easily put it out of your mind rather than keep returning to it.

Barry
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Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 12:45

Adrian, I think you are right about most people realising there is more sand in the bottom of the hour glass than in the top when we reach a certain age.

I certainly was aware that there was more life behind me than left in front.

And my brush with PCa testing definitely brought that into sharper focus. I spent 6 weeks believing that I had cancer and my priorities changed somewhat.

I didn't or rather couldn't come up with a bucket list as I feel I've lived a pretty full life and hadn't left a lot of things undone.

But I definitely took opportunities that I may not have done if id not had the experience of PCa testing.

Even though I was cleared I still think it improved my mindset to go for things rather than sit back and let things happen. 

Ive not done anything big on getting my affairs in order but I can see that being a big thing to those with a positive diagnosis.

I guess in the end we are all of us different, some men will ignore and deny, some will fret and get angry, some will give up and some will double down and get on with the living you have left.

If pca or any other life limiting disease does get me I intend to spit in its eye and crack on. 

Great topic to encourage discussion mate...

Mick 

 

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 13:39
Hi Adrian

Great question!

A diagnosis certainly focusses the mind...

I think there are various stages - that immediate panic at first diagnosis and "getting one's house in order" (and yes we did redo our Wills!!); the acceptance phase and the realisation that it is not necessarily an immediate death sentence and thus some relief; then I think there is a phase when you are being treated/bombarded and just have to get through it ( but I would admit to some dark thoughts in the middle of the night during the worst bits of chemo). That is where I am at the moment, just coming up to a one year anniversary since my sky high PSA result.

This process has certainly changed me (and my oncologist said that I would be a changed man ..), I am more empathetic and emotional (bless the HT) and I do look forward to small wins and taking time "to smell the roses".

I tend to look back and think about the contributions I have made to others ( several decades in the NHS, not frontline and 15 years as a School Governor ) and take a certain pleasure that I have been able to contribute.

I find that being retired now other people look at you differently - you are not the professional who was always being asked for advice but just a retired person. I think there is something in getting over (and into) retirement that we should all be given a course on before we do!

This then leads into the concept of worth and what does the future hold.

I take the view that being active, involved and still contributing as I can will fill my days - apart from the travel/Grandkids/hospital visits.

Getting to the stage of treatment whereby I can be in "maintenance" mode is my current goal, so I am looking positively into the near/medium future.

However there is nothing like having a Stage 4 diagnosis to start you thinking about your own mortality...

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 13:46
Forget to mention (HT!) that another of my short term goals is to outlast the expiry date on my new credit card!

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 17:27

Adrian - I had a look at that link/thread and it has taken me a while to recover, so so moving.  Thank you for bringing that to us, it deserves to be around for all to read.  (It's very difficult to type with tears in your eyes though)

Edited by member 28 Jul 2026 at 17:28  | Reason: Not specified

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 17:42

Hi

The Swedes have a process called Death Cleaning - done by the owner of the stuff.

Just found this article -https://www.bgs.org.uk/the-benefits-of-swedish-death-cleaning 

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 29 Jul 2026 at 20:45
Hi Adrian,

It's upsetting that many men have had their lifespan shortened by PCa because it was diagnosed late. In the absence of Government support for PSA testing, more needs to be done to encourage men to be tested and not to wait until they show symptoms, because not all men do and if PCa is given so much of a start, really good treatment results are often less successful.

I am very grateful to my GP for suggesting that while he took blood for another problem, he added a PSA test. Although I went the extra mile to get the treatment I wanted, I count myself very fortunate that it has enabled me to be 'in remission'. I am thankful for the support I have received on this forum and happy that some men have found some of my contributions helpful. We all learn from each other's posts in this forum because it is a wide and evolving subject. Some post more often than others but that is what often happens on forums. You have made very valuable contributions and provided some great links in your 3 years Adrian.

Barry
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Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 12:45

Adrian, I think you are right about most people realising there is more sand in the bottom of the hour glass than in the top when we reach a certain age.

I certainly was aware that there was more life behind me than left in front.

And my brush with PCa testing definitely brought that into sharper focus. I spent 6 weeks believing that I had cancer and my priorities changed somewhat.

I didn't or rather couldn't come up with a bucket list as I feel I've lived a pretty full life and hadn't left a lot of things undone.

But I definitely took opportunities that I may not have done if id not had the experience of PCa testing.

Even though I was cleared I still think it improved my mindset to go for things rather than sit back and let things happen. 

Ive not done anything big on getting my affairs in order but I can see that being a big thing to those with a positive diagnosis.

I guess in the end we are all of us different, some men will ignore and deny, some will fret and get angry, some will give up and some will double down and get on with the living you have left.

If pca or any other life limiting disease does get me I intend to spit in its eye and crack on. 

Great topic to encourage discussion mate...

Mick 

 

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 13:39
Hi Adrian

Great question!

A diagnosis certainly focusses the mind...

I think there are various stages - that immediate panic at first diagnosis and "getting one's house in order" (and yes we did redo our Wills!!); the acceptance phase and the realisation that it is not necessarily an immediate death sentence and thus some relief; then I think there is a phase when you are being treated/bombarded and just have to get through it ( but I would admit to some dark thoughts in the middle of the night during the worst bits of chemo). That is where I am at the moment, just coming up to a one year anniversary since my sky high PSA result.

This process has certainly changed me (and my oncologist said that I would be a changed man ..), I am more empathetic and emotional (bless the HT) and I do look forward to small wins and taking time "to smell the roses".

I tend to look back and think about the contributions I have made to others ( several decades in the NHS, not frontline and 15 years as a School Governor ) and take a certain pleasure that I have been able to contribute.

I find that being retired now other people look at you differently - you are not the professional who was always being asked for advice but just a retired person. I think there is something in getting over (and into) retirement that we should all be given a course on before we do!

This then leads into the concept of worth and what does the future hold.

I take the view that being active, involved and still contributing as I can will fill my days - apart from the travel/Grandkids/hospital visits.

Getting to the stage of treatment whereby I can be in "maintenance" mode is my current goal, so I am looking positively into the near/medium future.

However there is nothing like having a Stage 4 diagnosis to start you thinking about your own mortality...

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 13:46
Forget to mention (HT!) that another of my short term goals is to outlast the expiry date on my new credit card!

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 13:53

Adrian, I will be 79 years old in October (if I make it 🙄) . I have lived longer than all of my male ancestors and have seen  many friends and acquaintances drop off this mortal coil at, around or before my age. So, I'm just pleased to be here and with almost all of my faculties. And the longer I live, the less I fear dying. I am sure that, like many others, it is not the inevitability of dying that worries me, it is the manner of dying. Just like those who fear flying don't really fear flying; they fear crashing. To get off this tangent and back to PCa, for me, even though I have had a recurrence and SRT, it has not brought any additional morbid thoughts to mind. What it has done is to increase my awareness and empathy for those sufferers whose prognosis is not so favourable.

Peter 

Edited by member 28 Jul 2026 at 13:55  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 15:53

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
What it has done is to increase my awareness and empathy for those sufferers whose prognosis is not so favourable.

Me too, mate. Especially younger men, who've been diagnosed.

The other day, I found a very old conversation on here. The opening post brought me to tears. 

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t6254-Death--what-do-y-all-know-about-death

The bit from Mark's post that really got me me was this:

I think and worry about my Deb sorting out my clothes, books, my silly model making stuff, my nerdy computer stuff and importantly my little box of mementoes that I keep very private, these include some of my Dad's wartime things, some love letters, my tungsten darts and photos of my 71\2lb record barbel and a 6lb chub. It probably means nothing to anyone but me, will someone one day find it, see my Dads cap badge and think its junk, photos straight in the bin, letters half read and joining the other stuff in the bin.

I've got a couple of old shoe boxes, decorated in Xmas wrapping paper. They are in the attic under a pile of junk. In them I've kept drawings from my kids and grandkids. Love letters and poems from my wife. Homemade Valentine's cards. Letters of thanks from people I'd helped during my career. Local newspaper clippings of my cricketing 'greatest moments' (they're aren't many of those. 🙂) Letters from my late  mum and dad.

'This is your life' in two battered boxes.

I suppose on top of that, hanging on the walls, there are few pieces of artwork I've done. A full set of series 3 Super Zings, I collected with my grandson when he was about four and his first pair of football boots and goalie gloves. And lots of photo albums, many including snap shots of me doing daft. things. 

Edited by member 28 Jul 2026 at 16:50  | Reason: Add link.

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 17:27

Adrian - I had a look at that link/thread and it has taken me a while to recover, so so moving.  Thank you for bringing that to us, it deserves to be around for all to read.  (It's very difficult to type with tears in your eyes though)

Edited by member 28 Jul 2026 at 17:28  | Reason: Not specified

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 17:31
Sounds like you need a good bonfire! Get rid of junk now so no one else has to!
User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 17:42

Hi

The Swedes have a process called Death Cleaning - done by the owner of the stuff.

Just found this article -https://www.bgs.org.uk/the-benefits-of-swedish-death-cleaning 

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 28 Jul 2026 at 18:20

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Sounds like you need a good bonfire! Get rid of junk now so no one else has to!

You're all heart, mate  😂

If my house ever caught on fire. The two shoe boxes of 'my most treasured possessions' are the only things I'd risk my life trying to rescue.

 

Edited by member 29 Jul 2026 at 05:06  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 29 Jul 2026 at 02:51

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

 

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t6254-Death--what-do-y-all-know-about-death

Sadly, many of the people who contributed to that thread directly or who were represented by a relative have died prematurely. I had the pleasure of meeting some of them when we met annually in Leicester. I found that reading through that poignant thread again is a reminder of our vulnerability, even if treatment gives us some extra years.  It seems sensible to prepare to make it easier for family, even if we cling on to a few mementoes that they will not want.  It's like a lot of things, get it done and you can more easily put it out of your mind rather than keep returning to it.

Barry
User
Posted 29 Jul 2026 at 05:23

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t6254-Death--what-do-y-all-know-about-death

Sadly, many of the people who contributed to that thread directly or who were represented by a relative have died prematurely. I had the pleasure of meeting some of them when we met annually in Leicester.

Hi, Barry.

I saw you contributed to that 2012 thread and that you've joined the forum in 2008. That's incredible, mate. You are a stalwart of this community.

I've only been a member 3 years, but have already lost too many 'forum pals' to our disease. 

Edited by member 29 Jul 2026 at 05:45  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 29 Jul 2026 at 20:45
Hi Adrian,

It's upsetting that many men have had their lifespan shortened by PCa because it was diagnosed late. In the absence of Government support for PSA testing, more needs to be done to encourage men to be tested and not to wait until they show symptoms, because not all men do and if PCa is given so much of a start, really good treatment results are often less successful.

I am very grateful to my GP for suggesting that while he took blood for another problem, he added a PSA test. Although I went the extra mile to get the treatment I wanted, I count myself very fortunate that it has enabled me to be 'in remission'. I am thankful for the support I have received on this forum and happy that some men have found some of my contributions helpful. We all learn from each other's posts in this forum because it is a wide and evolving subject. Some post more often than others but that is what often happens on forums. You have made very valuable contributions and provided some great links in your 3 years Adrian.

Barry
 
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