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Worried about choices i have to make

User
Posted 21 Aug 2026 at 15:37

Hello anyone. I have recently been diagnosed with Gleason 6 localised, and am having to make the decision of my life between RALP and RT.

Can anyone please help by informing theire experience of either please

User
Posted 21 Aug 2026 at 16:44

Hi, mate.

Welcome to the forum.

At 67 years old, with a Gleason 6 (3+3), presumably T2 stage diagnosis, I can't understand why you haven't been offered active surveillance?

Here's an excellent video on various treatment options, more than just radiotherapy or surgery, and their possible side effects. 

https://youtu.be/zYTU94-8pTc?si=xW83bOb0AVFQFD2l

I can't see, in your case, that there is any rush to make a treatment decision, so you've got time to research thoroughly.

Please keep us updated. Good luck.👍

Edited by member 22 Aug 2026 at 07:28  | Reason: Additional text and add link.

User
Posted 21 Aug 2026 at 16:52

Hi

I thought I might just offer the thought of having a look at the PCUK ToolKit available from the "shop" on this site - it contains a whole host of information about treatments and includes lists of good questions you can ask.  There are plenty of other publications which you can order for free or download. These may be a good starting point for you to be able to build up questions and seek answers.

Personally I am all in one piece so have no experience of RALP ,and have just signed up for RT in November following my chemo earlier in the year together with hormone therapy - so not quite there yet.

If you click on our names or roundels next to them you can see our stories which will give you some background as to where each of the responders is coming from.  If you are able/willing to add in information about yourself you can see what would be helpful to others in providing assistance.

 

 

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 22 Aug 2026 at 20:49

Sorry to hear this.

please take a look at my journey. I was initially diagnosed Gleason 6 and went down the surgical route Nov 2019 at London Bridge (Guys Private). Still all clear after final staging post histology of (3+4) Gleason 7. T2 c. Quality of life pretty similar to pre-op so happy days!

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User
Posted 23 Aug 2026 at 06:36

Hi and thanks for replying.

I have my first appointment with the surgeon tomorrow (Monday 24th) and am anxious to say the least. I did speak in the first instance with the senior staff at the Urology dept and they did talk about active surveillance  but I fear that the most. The thought of it growing, or spreading to the point it becomes incurable freaks me out. They have told me it's not life threatening, and that it's a slow growing thing, contained within the Prostate and that many people die of something else, say natural causes etc. I wish I didn't have it, or any of you out there, so in trying to make a decision I am hopeful others can share their experience of side effects of RALP, and also RT

Richard

User
Posted 23 Aug 2026 at 08:38

Husband is 74 and G8. He finished RT 4 weeks ago and is on HT.
About 20% of men retain sexual function to some degree on ADT. He is a fit mostly active man.
We haven't got up yet as he is making the tea. I'll leave the rest to imagination.
What is your biggest fear?
Impotence, or incontinence?
How old are you?
Would surgery guarantee to be nerve sparing?
Perhaps talk to someone on AS.

There is talk of reclassifying G6 as not a cancer. I can understand your anxieties though. 

The RT of 20 sessions was a strain but not unbearable he said. The going backwards and forward 5 x a week was a drain. He is virtually back to normal now.

I wish you well 

 

 

Edited by member 23 Aug 2026 at 08:45  | Reason: Extra info

User
Posted 23 Aug 2026 at 10:58

Thank you for your reply Antionette.

I am 67 years of age.

From what I understand surgery to remove cannot totally guarantee nerve preservation, although they try. Either surgery or RT have side effects. I just fear the radical nature of it, the possible urine leakage into the abdomen from rejoining the urethra, plus the ED possibilities.

It seems that RT is the less invasive treatment, band  yes it has side effects, and poss long term  but so does surgery. They sagy RT is as effective as surgery also.

Enjoy your tea

Richard

User
Posted 23 Aug 2026 at 11:18

Hi yes up and in the garden now.

The RT can have long term side effects but I feel the statistics are for men who had the treatment a fair while ago. The RT these days is more targeted.  Husband asked the GP for Tadalafil and she agreed . It can help with blood flow for erections, and there is a (disputed) idea that it helps prevent urinary tract damage by RT. It was very effective to the extent husband decided to only take 2 or 3 a week. (5mg) 

An American specialist Mark Schulz has done a lot of YouTube videos. I found the minimising side effects really helpful. He also has said RT is as effective as surgery. 

As Adrian said don't rush. This is not as urgent as it first seems. The word cancer is frightening but G6 is not life threatening as such. Find lots of info and go with what fits your personality best 

We had no choice. We also have my husband's father's experience. He had PC in his 70s and lived to be 93. So husband actually expected to have it and we weren't surprised. Dismayed and worried yes but moving forward as positively as we can.

Ps we still haven't told neighbours where we live. I thought we'd definitely need to during RT but no, we still didn't need to. He was very tired on 2 days, mainly because he'd walked 5 or 6 miles with a neighbour in 30° heat! Otherwise just getting on with stuff normally 

User
Posted 23 Aug 2026 at 11:45

Best thing I ever did. Surgeon volume track record pretty key I think to good outcome in terms of continence. Ideally want a surgeon who is performing 100+ RARPs a year. Ask if they use NeuroSAFE during the op. It’s a no brainer as it checks margins in real-time while you are open. They took additional margin during mine….came back clear but better than putting you all back together then saying there were positive margin. Amazed NeuroSAFE isn’t done by default. 

its natural to worry and I was crapping myself beforehand. When I came round and woke up I immediately wondered what I had been so worried about. It was less hassle than having my tonsils out but obviously have to be super careful for three months and follow clinical advice…it flies by and you are back to normal.

the urethra anastomosis worried me too but it’s really elastic apparently and heals in as little as 7 days….just follow clinical advice and all if fine I found :-)

Going from feeling doomed to cancer free is quite an experience. Got my next PSA in November which are always an anxious time but fingers crossed as will be year 7 😵‍💫

keep up posted on how you get on.

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User
Posted 23 Aug 2026 at 18:05

As Adrian56 says they should be offering you active surveillance as a first resort with your diagnosis - I was 3+4 & T3a so I was recommended surgery - my consultant told me if I had been T2 I would have been on active surveillance. Even with my diagnosis it took me 7 months to agree to surgery as I couldn't make up my mind what to do - my consultant was Ok with me taking my time to decide. 

I had the op in March - was fully incontinent when vertical after my catherter was removed - now 5 months later I have full control. Unfortunately I have no erections but as I had ED before the op I'm not surprised (but still disappointed). There are side affects of the surgery but my last PSA test was undetectable so from that perspective its worked. 

I found making the treatment decision the hardest part of all so take your time to be comfortable with your choice. 

User
Posted 23 Aug 2026 at 20:50

You sound as worried as I was 10yrs ago.   I was offered AS, surgery or RadioTherapy probably with hormones.  The AS was said to be so they couldn't be accused of overtreating me and they wanted to do a full template biopsy. 

I was Gleason 4+3 but the key to my decision was the 4 and it was close to the edge of the prostate.  Surgery seemed an instant treatment so I pushed for that although you read about others who took their time and decided Radiotherapy etc but I've no regrets.  It has come back though very slowly.

With a 3+3 they say it rarely spreads, but it's likely you'll worry it might.  Have they said how large your lesion is and how close to the edge it is.   

With what I know now I think I'd be watching my psa readings closely to see how fast it's changing and then work out if I can wait a bit longer to do some research about Radiotherapy or Brachytherapy in your case.  Although like you I'm of the sort who wouldn't want to waste time even though I might later think otherwise. Radiotherapy has improved and there is the possibility of shorter courses.

The op was easy enough as you go to sleep and wake up when it's done. I found having a catheter and bag for a couple of weeks no problem sometimes visiting people and not letting on I had a bag strapped to my leg.  At first I leaked when I walked when the catheter was taken off so kept the pads on for some time.  I had after effects like 5/10 ED which improved a bit.  But now it seems I might have radiotherapy anyway as it's very slowly coming back.

User
Posted 23 Aug 2026 at 22:19

There may be a further option for you if you are a suitable candidate but it is seldom mentioned because few hospitals can offer all or any forms of it. I am referring to Focal Threapy. The most common forms of this are HIFU (High Intensity Focal Ultra Sound) which kills cancer by heat, Cryotherapy, which freezes the cancer cells or Nanoknife (Irreversible Electroporation) which uses electricity. There are other forms of Focal Therapy but this would mean being treated abroad, so I will not detail them. Then there are two types of Brachyherapy which can be by placing radioactive seeds (Low Dose) or by inserting radioactive probes into the cancer cells and removing the probes almost immediately during an operation, (High Dose). Focal generally has fewer side effects but requires a specialist to check your suitability . HIFU may require two treatments. All the aforementioned treatments can be done on the NHS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkueqxHuVn4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h8tnVENMSY

 

Edited by member 23 Aug 2026 at 22:20  | Reason: to highlight links

Barry
User
Posted 24 Aug 2026 at 05:36

Thanks for replying.

I don't think FT is an option here in Wales on the NHS, and I can't afford to go private. As far as the lesion goes, all I know is it measures 20mm, but is contained. They didn't class me getting my results as urgent (although to me it certainly was) and the consultant at biopsy crossed out the 2 weeks wait in my letter and changed it to 6 weeks. He asked how I want to receive the results and I told him that I would prefer to have a phone call instead of a letter.

It was at about 5 weeks that I was wondering so I was in my GP for something else and the practice nurse told me my results. They'd had them already.

User
Posted 24 Aug 2026 at 07:16

I looked quite seriously at focal therapy back in 2019, as well as proton beam treatment. UCLH was one of the leading UK centres for focal therapy, and at the time I also had access to proton beam treatment privately almost on my doorstep.

After speaking to consultants and a number of former patients, I eventually decided it wasn’t the right route for me. One of my concerns was that prostate cancer can be multifocal, so treating only the known focus doesn’t necessarily mean there isn’t clinically significant disease elsewhere in the prostate, either already present but undetected or developing subsequently. In some cases that can mean further focal treatment, radiotherapy or surgery later on.

For me personally, I preferred surgery because I wanted the prostate removed while the disease appeared localised, while retaining radiotherapy as a potential salvage option should I ever need it.

Another factor in my decision was the possibility of the final pathology being different from the biopsy. Although my biopsy showed Gleason 6 disease, my surgeon advised me that in my particular case he estimated roughly a 60% chance that the cancer would be upgraded when the whole prostate was examined after surgery. That obviously won’t apply to everybody — upgrading risk depends very much on the individual case, biopsy findings, MRI, tumour volume and other factors — but it was something I had to take into account when making my decision.

I was also advised that surgery after previous radiotherapy or some focal treatments can be more technically challenging because treatment can cause scarring/fibrosis and alter the normal tissue planes around the prostate. Salvage surgery is certainly possible in experienced hands, but that was another reason I preferred to keep radiotherapy in reserve rather than the other way around.

One other thing that influenced me was that my cancer was very close to the edge/capsule of the prostate. I remember discussing the location with my consultant at some length, and that added to my feeling that I would rather deal with it sooner rather than potentially chase it later.

That’s just how I approached the decision in my own circumstances rather than a recommendation for anyone else. Surgery, radiotherapy, focal therapy and active surveillance can all be entirely reasonable choices depending on the individual cancer and, importantly, what matters most to the person having the treatment.

 

User
Posted 24 Aug 2026 at 07:52

Thank you.

What you stated all sounds logical. I have read how having radiotherapy first can make surgery more challenging later should there be recurrence. I know one thing for certain, and that is that Watch & Wait is not an option I will consider for tge obvious reasons. Like you, I would like to think that the cancer would be removed with RALP, but I will find out later if that is definitely an option for me given that I have 2 inguinal hernias that I had keyhole surgery for in 2007 but now need repairing which would mean any surgery for cancer may have to be tailored 

User
Posted 24 Aug 2026 at 08:19

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I would like to think that the cancer would be removed with RALP

Unfortunately, that's not always the case, between 20-40% of those who've had surgery, have biochemical recurrence. The risk of BCR is dependant on my factors, including the aggressiveness of the cancer, but even those with low/intermediate grade cancer, have about a 20% chance of recurrence. I believe the recurrence rates are similar for other treatments.

Initially, I had a very similar diagnosis to yours. Gleason 6, T2a,  PSA 5.6. Statistically, I had a 50% chance of not needing further treatment in the following ten years. I liked those odds and took a chance. 

Unfortunately, during the following two years, they discovered disease progression and I opted for surgery. Three and a half years later, its been successful, but I still have a high chance of BCR. 

Although my active surveillance ultimately failed, if I were in your position, I'd still give it a go.

My reasoning for this is you've roughly got a one in two chance of not needing further treatment in the next ten years, and no risk of treatment side effects. Where as if you opted for surgery you've got a 1 in 5 chance of recurrence and a high risk of side effects.

The beauty of active surveillance is you can change your mind and if things go awry opt for a radical treatment. You say that you find it difficult going on active surveillance in case the cancer grew. I appreciate that, I had the same concern, but I find the checks for BCR just as worrying. 

My thoughts are why try and fix something that might never need fixing.

My only concerns about active surveillance is it being largely based on biopsy results which can be inaccurate. I believe that my initial biopsy missed the more aggressive cancer cells.

It must also be ACTIVE surveillance. You must ensure that your follow up PSA checks, MRI scans and possible biopsies are done in a timely fashion. Mine weren't.

I hope that your appointment goes well today and whatever treatment path is planned, it works for you.

Edited by member 24 Aug 2026 at 10:20  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 24 Aug 2026 at 08:21

Best of luck with the meeting today. 👍

Back in 2019 I had a Retzius-sparing RARP (robot-assisted radical prostatectomy) with NeuroSAFE. I’ve mentioned it before, but it may be worth having a read about if you haven’t already come across the approach.

If you do end up considering the surgical route, one thing I’d personally look for is a genuinely high-volume surgeon — ideally someone performing 100+ prostatectomies a year. It’s obviously no guarantee of a particular outcome, as every case is different, but experience and volume were certainly factors I took into account when choosing my surgeon. For me, it was simply about trying to stack as many of the cards in my favour as possible.

Anyway, hope the meeting goes well today and helps give you a clearer picture of the options. 🍻

 

 
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