Thank you for your responce, however i have a yearly hospital meeting with a urology practice nurse to discuss this with the same result. They have said that i have had two operation with the 2nd one to save "in thier words,to remove the scaring to make the pipe bigger". They have told me the only option left is bowtox, which i am on the waiting list. I will discuss this again next week when i see them. I need some action as life is not good with getting up a night time.