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Posted 07 Sep 2026 at 09:14

Hi, friends.

I am on Prostap (leuprorelin) for 3 years -- second jab in October. 

Four weeks of radiotherapy through October.

Next week I begin a two year course of Abiraterone. My consultant has put me on this because my T3a locally advanced cancer has a cribriform growth structure. It is aggressive and highly likely to spread. For now all my scans are clear. Gleason 9.

The main side effects I experience at this stage are frequent hot flushes and some fatigue. But I am concerned about the month of RT -- and the following years on the two drugs. There are also annoying dietary restriction on Abiraterone. 

So I would love to hear from other who are on this regime. How is this cocktail affecting you...?

Research has shown excellent survival rates for the PC Abiraterone combination so I am hopeful...

User
Posted 07 Sep 2026 at 14:09
Hi my husband was Gleason 4+5 plus spread to the para aortic lymph nodes, he was 55 at the time ,nearly 11 yrs ago. He had early chemo plus prostap . He then went onto the stampede trial arm j which included Enzo and Abi combo plus the prostap for life . His strength was zapped but he continued working . About 3 yrs ago the trial concluded that adding both drugs together was no more beneficial to just one of them apart from the toxicity of the combined drugs . He was taken off of Enzo and has continued with the Abi and prostap . He’s strength was a lot better but nothing compared to what it was before the cancer. His psa has remained undetectable all this time . He hasn’t changed his diet . He’s due for retirement in oct but has requested to stay on as it gives him focus .

Hope this helps , feel free to ask if you need further info .

Best wishes

Debby

User
Posted 07 Sep 2026 at 18:42

I’ve been on standard injected HT for 2 years and on abiraterone tablets for 20 months.  I had 4 weeks of RT early last year.

While on abiraterone, I’ve been given regular blood tests to monitor liver and kidney function, and potassium levels re the heart.   If these tests show significant issues - as can happen, albeit not usually - the abiraterone would likely be stopped. 
However, what patients usually notice are other side effects: tiredness, physical & mental weakness, lack of energy, tendency to burst into tears over trivial things, and sometimes depression, on top of cessation of sexual function.   I’ve been told by an oncologist that it’s the standard HT injections that are the main cause of these effects, rather than the added abiraterone.  
The message from the medics seems to be that these effects are just a consequence of the near-total lack of testosterone, which patients have to put up with, in order to suppress the cancer.

For myself, I haven’t found the abiraterone too burdensome.  Yes I have to take the 2 big (500mg) tablets daily, at least 2 hours after, and at least an hour before, any food or any drink except water.   But I cope with this by taking the tablets with a cup of water when I get up for a pee late in the night/ in the early hours of the morning.  

To mitigate the muscle-weakening and lethargy-inducing effects of HT, I’ve been going to regular exercise classes. 

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User
Posted 07 Sep 2026 at 14:09
Hi my husband was Gleason 4+5 plus spread to the para aortic lymph nodes, he was 55 at the time ,nearly 11 yrs ago. He had early chemo plus prostap . He then went onto the stampede trial arm j which included Enzo and Abi combo plus the prostap for life . His strength was zapped but he continued working . About 3 yrs ago the trial concluded that adding both drugs together was no more beneficial to just one of them apart from the toxicity of the combined drugs . He was taken off of Enzo and has continued with the Abi and prostap . He’s strength was a lot better but nothing compared to what it was before the cancer. His psa has remained undetectable all this time . He hasn’t changed his diet . He’s due for retirement in oct but has requested to stay on as it gives him focus .

Hope this helps , feel free to ask if you need further info .

Best wishes

Debby

User
Posted 07 Sep 2026 at 18:42

I’ve been on standard injected HT for 2 years and on abiraterone tablets for 20 months.  I had 4 weeks of RT early last year.

While on abiraterone, I’ve been given regular blood tests to monitor liver and kidney function, and potassium levels re the heart.   If these tests show significant issues - as can happen, albeit not usually - the abiraterone would likely be stopped. 
However, what patients usually notice are other side effects: tiredness, physical & mental weakness, lack of energy, tendency to burst into tears over trivial things, and sometimes depression, on top of cessation of sexual function.   I’ve been told by an oncologist that it’s the standard HT injections that are the main cause of these effects, rather than the added abiraterone.  
The message from the medics seems to be that these effects are just a consequence of the near-total lack of testosterone, which patients have to put up with, in order to suppress the cancer.

For myself, I haven’t found the abiraterone too burdensome.  Yes I have to take the 2 big (500mg) tablets daily, at least 2 hours after, and at least an hour before, any food or any drink except water.   But I cope with this by taking the tablets with a cup of water when I get up for a pee late in the night/ in the early hours of the morning.  

To mitigate the muscle-weakening and lethargy-inducing effects of HT, I’ve been going to regular exercise classes. 

User
Posted 07 Sep 2026 at 19:28
Many thanks, Hopeful Oldie.

My second dose of HT Prostap injection is due 2nd October.As far as I know at the moment I will Start the Abiraterone around the same time -- and the RT of 20 doses over 4 weeks.

So far my side effects on Prostap alone have been minimal: hot flushes and possibly a slight increase in tiredness but that does not bother me.

I am very pleased that when I mentioned Abiraterone to my consultant he agreed it would work well along side the other treatments. But it does seem a lot for my body -- and mind -- to cope with...!

Have you made an dietary changes? There does seem to be a lot of items are out of bounds for me in October as I have a gassy digestion which must be avoided for the RT.

A lot to take in, but I`ll get there. I am fit and well and active have amazingly positive support from my wife. We are currently struggling to work out how to tell our children without alarming them.

Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated.

User
Posted 07 Sep 2026 at 22:13

Hi there, I’m just coming up to my last month on zoladex /abiraterone. To be honest I think it’s already been said I believe the main symptoms come from the ADT and the Abiraterone just add a bit more. I’ve had no issues with the abi but overall have struggled with fatigue, brain fog and concentration especially at work.

The RT I didn’t find too bad, for me the brachytherapy was worse which I had a few weeks before. I was still able to go for small walks and go to the driving range. Toilet urgency increased a bit and there was a bit of fatigue but for me the hardest part was the HT. They say to have a non fibrous diet but tbh I was ok. Wish you the best of luck. Take care Stuart 

User
Posted 08 Sep 2026 at 21:29

You’ll get the standard lectures about caffeine, alcohol etc, but I’ve not made any special dietary changes on account of being on HT & abiraterone.   I do try not to eat too much because it’s well known that people on HT tend to put on weight even more easily than the average person.  Another reason to try to be active and not just give in to lethargy. 

However the four weeks of radiotherapy are another matter.  I actually lost a little weight because of the disruption to eating patterns.   Each blast of radiotherapy takes only a few minutes  but you spend at least a couple of hours, usually longer,  at the hospital:

1.  Waiting your turn to be told to use one of the supplied mini-enemas, to completely empty your bowel.

2. After you’ve done that, you wait to be told when to start drinking cups of water;

3.  Drinking steadily to fill your bladder;

4. Waiting to be called in to have your bladder measured for how much urine it has accumulated;

5.  if your bladder’s found to be full enough, you then join the queue of people ready for the actual radiotherapy;

6  When it’s finally your turn, you’re called into the actual radiotherapy room, to be positioned very carefully on the trolley, and told to remain absolutely still for the next 20 minutes or so. 
7. The staff leave the room and the machine starts clanking and whirring, punctuated by long pauses.  After about 15 or 20 minutes there’s an even longer pause.  

8.  If you’re lucky, there’s then a loud clank followed by a fairly quiet, slightly high pitched continuous buzzing sound.  After maybe 4 minutes of this, it stops.  The staff then come back in and tell you you’re done, you can get off the trolley and out,  and the next patient can come in.

9.  If you’re unlucky, (8) doesn’t happen.  Instead the staff come in and say sorry, we can’t proceed because your bowel isn’t empty enough, or some gas has come into it from your intestines, or your bladder isn’t quite full enough.  During the 15 minutes you spent under the machine, your body parts were being measured and scanned, not irradiated.  You have to go back to the waiting room and use another enema before refilling your bladder, etc, as in all the stages listed above.  The radiotherapists get on with treating other patients and don’t wait for you.  But usually you will be given a second attempt in the machine within a couple more hours.   Unless the failed attempt was too near the end of the day, in which case you’ll have to be booked for an extra day at the end of your 20 days. 

I asked the staff for dietary advice to avoid that happening, I didn’t get a clear answer other than the obvious point, try not eat or drink anything gassy like baked beans etc during the 4 weeks of RT. 

 

 

 

 

 

User
Posted 08 Sep 2026 at 22:08

Hi 

Husband is on Decapeptyl and Apalutamide. He is not doing too badly really. 

He hasn't had much fatigue or put on weight but has had a few more sweats particularly in the very hot weather. It's mainly when he gets up. I bought him a device actually meant for women going through the menopause. It's called Embr wave. Quite expensive, I got it off Ebay half price and he finds it really good. It's a strange device that looks like a wristwatch. 

He is very active most days. Walking, gardening chopping wood all sorts. 

He found the RT a strain ,feeling very tired on the third day (he didn't want to tell a neighbour and did a 5 mile walk with him in 30°)  Otherwise he managed OK. We did go to bed a bit earlier as we left somedays at 7am. I think just going there 5 days out of 7 was a strain. The enema was he said tricky. It does take a while to get your system back to normal  afterwards. However we didn't stop doing anything. He did adjust his diet. He lived mainly on chicken, mash and carrots.

One word of advice. If you get a choice Id say choose the weekends. We went on W, T, F, S, Sun. The weekend started later so we didn't have to get there till 9.30 instead of 8am. The car park was empty so no stress there at all. And the roads were much quieter so we got there quicker. 

I make our own bread so while he was doing the RT I made only white bread not the usual mix of wholemeal and seeds. About 6 weeks later he's pretty much back to normal but does go promptly when he needs a wee. 

The RT staff were very helpful. We didn't have to wait for anything. He was given about 30 enemas at the beginning.  You helped yourself to water from the machines.

The system was: 

8am arrive. 2 cups water and do a wee. 

8.10 Use the enema.  

8. 25 start drinking 4 cups of water.

8.30 log in with your given barcode and move on to 2nd waiting area. Wait 30 mins to be called. The water will fill your bladder by then. 

A few times they were 2 to 3 minutes late but very prompt indeed. 

They told us however late anyone is they are never turned away. 

He did drink 2 litres of water a day for about 2 weeks before the RT. I bought lots of bottled water and labelled it with dates. 

There is also a school of thought that Tadalafil 5mg keeps the blood flow going and helps prevent damage to the urinary tract. He had a telephone appointment with his GP who agreed to prescribe 5mg per day. If you want any more info on this message me. 

We have altered our diet. Red meat and processed food are out completely. With a few exceptions, like the steak and ale pie he had on holiday.

Hence the homemade bread. I discovered it was a super processed food. I have an excellent recipe that takes 10 mins of hand kneading. I put my phone timer on while I watch YouTube.  If anyone wants this quick recipe message me. 

Edited by member 08 Sep 2026 at 22:19  | Reason: Extra info

 
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