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Posted 25 Sep 2026 at 11:05

We know that Prostate cancer is curable if caught early and incurable if caught late, yet the NHS with it's past policy of; not screening, not allowing GP's/nurses to initiate discussions about prostate cancer with patients, and not offering PSA tests made no attempt to catch it early, and seem to have done everything they could to make sure that it was caught too late. 

It was left to celebrities like Stephen Fry, Bill Turnbull, and Sir Chris Hoy to inform the public about prostate cancer and psa testing.

12000 deaths per year is not acceptable when we have had psa tests, and ct and mri scans for many years, and all parties in this conspiracy of silence should be ashamed.

Luckily a friend told me about psa tests after his GP went "off script " and offered him a PSA test even though he had no symptoms. He had cancer, had radiotherapy, then died. I took my friends advice and asked for a PSA test at the age of 65. The result was a psa of well over 4000.

After my diagnosis with advanced prostate cancer, I asked my GP (in 2023), why urination, the prostate, or psa tests had not been mentioned to me by anyone at the practice, including at my health checks. I was told bluntly "it's not policy".

Not wanting to overtreat was never an excuse. PSA tests very accurately measure psa in the blood and a raised level usually indicates something abnormal and further investigation should follow before biopsy or surgery. 

At least men over 50 could get a psa test from their GP if they asked for one or had symptoms, but on 15 August 2026 the headline of the Daily Telegraph said "Men lose right to prostate cancer test". 

The prostate cancer risk management programme (PCRMP) guidance which said "men aged 50 and over who decide to have a PSA test based on this balanced information (from the GP) can do so for free on the NHS", and also that "GP's should not initiate the conversation", has been withdrawn. 

Now, almost all men are not to be screened and men over 50 are no longer entitled to an NHS psa test, they must first convince their GP. Ex Prime Minister Lord Cameron who has had prostate cancer described this as "yet another step backwards". The Daily Telegraph on 18 August 2026 carried comments from Professor Chris Booth a member of the EU's prostate cancer screening programme's scientific advisory board, he wrote "this latest manoeuvre by the department of health and social care (DHSC) will do nothing to improve the service and will undoubtedly cost lives. The surreptitious removal of guidance by the dhsc will further discourage GP's from providing the test".

On 2 June 26 the government announced that they agreed with the National Screening  Committee's final recommendation for very limited screening but that they would invest £18 million into the Transform Trial so that all black men aged 45 to 74 who have not had a recent PSA test will be invited to take part. This is PSA screening for all black men in everything but name. This seems to me a "face saving exercise" to bring in screening without going against the National Screening Committee because we could and should have had it years ago. I feel sure that routine screening of all men 50 or over will soon follow the trial.

Private companies and charities are filling the gap in psa and other testing. On 14 September 2026 an advert appeared on TV for a company called "one day tests" who offered a whole range of blood tests at walk in centres across the country. They offered 2 psa tests, total which shows total psa in blood and ultimate which shows total and free psa in blood. 

The Graham Fulford Charitable Trust (GFCT) started providing psa testing in 2004. They always test for total and free when necessary. In November 2023 the GFCT was awarded the Kings award for voluntary services. This is the highest award that a local voluntary group can receive. Graham was awarded an MBE on 15 June 2024 in the Kings birthday honours for "services to prostate cancer awareness and earlier diagnosis". I wonder how many members of the national screening committee have such an award. 

Don't these two examples of organisations show how the NHS is being bypassed and show a breakdown in relationships and trust between the public and Primary care?

We have all learned a lot about prostate cancer from the media in recent years, but I still feel angry that NHS policy and the attitude of some GP's prevented me and many others from being informed, advised and tested for Prostate cancer until it was too late.

What do others with advanced prostate cancer think about their late diagnosis and the current stance of the National Screening Committee and Health Minister? 

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Posted 25 Sep 2026 at 11:05

We know that Prostate cancer is curable if caught early and incurable if caught late, yet the NHS with it's past policy of; not screening, not allowing GP's/nurses to initiate discussions about prostate cancer with patients, and not offering PSA tests made no attempt to catch it early, and seem to have done everything they could to make sure that it was caught too late. 

It was left to celebrities like Stephen Fry, Bill Turnbull, and Sir Chris Hoy to inform the public about prostate cancer and psa testing.

12000 deaths per year is not acceptable when we have had psa tests, and ct and mri scans for many years, and all parties in this conspiracy of silence should be ashamed.

Luckily a friend told me about psa tests after his GP went "off script " and offered him a PSA test even though he had no symptoms. He had cancer, had radiotherapy, then died. I took my friends advice and asked for a PSA test at the age of 65. The result was a psa of well over 4000.

After my diagnosis with advanced prostate cancer, I asked my GP (in 2023), why urination, the prostate, or psa tests had not been mentioned to me by anyone at the practice, including at my health checks. I was told bluntly "it's not policy".

Not wanting to overtreat was never an excuse. PSA tests very accurately measure psa in the blood and a raised level usually indicates something abnormal and further investigation should follow before biopsy or surgery. 

At least men over 50 could get a psa test from their GP if they asked for one or had symptoms, but on 15 August 2026 the headline of the Daily Telegraph said "Men lose right to prostate cancer test". 

The prostate cancer risk management programme (PCRMP) guidance which said "men aged 50 and over who decide to have a PSA test based on this balanced information (from the GP) can do so for free on the NHS", and also that "GP's should not initiate the conversation", has been withdrawn. 

Now, almost all men are not to be screened and men over 50 are no longer entitled to an NHS psa test, they must first convince their GP. Ex Prime Minister Lord Cameron who has had prostate cancer described this as "yet another step backwards". The Daily Telegraph on 18 August 2026 carried comments from Professor Chris Booth a member of the EU's prostate cancer screening programme's scientific advisory board, he wrote "this latest manoeuvre by the department of health and social care (DHSC) will do nothing to improve the service and will undoubtedly cost lives. The surreptitious removal of guidance by the dhsc will further discourage GP's from providing the test".

On 2 June 26 the government announced that they agreed with the National Screening  Committee's final recommendation for very limited screening but that they would invest £18 million into the Transform Trial so that all black men aged 45 to 74 who have not had a recent PSA test will be invited to take part. This is PSA screening for all black men in everything but name. This seems to me a "face saving exercise" to bring in screening without going against the National Screening Committee because we could and should have had it years ago. I feel sure that routine screening of all men 50 or over will soon follow the trial.

Private companies and charities are filling the gap in psa and other testing. On 14 September 2026 an advert appeared on TV for a company called "one day tests" who offered a whole range of blood tests at walk in centres across the country. They offered 2 psa tests, total which shows total psa in blood and ultimate which shows total and free psa in blood. 

The Graham Fulford Charitable Trust (GFCT) started providing psa testing in 2004. They always test for total and free when necessary. In November 2023 the GFCT was awarded the Kings award for voluntary services. This is the highest award that a local voluntary group can receive. Graham was awarded an MBE on 15 June 2024 in the Kings birthday honours for "services to prostate cancer awareness and earlier diagnosis". I wonder how many members of the national screening committee have such an award. 

Don't these two examples of organisations show how the NHS is being bypassed and show a breakdown in relationships and trust between the public and Primary care?

We have all learned a lot about prostate cancer from the media in recent years, but I still feel angry that NHS policy and the attitude of some GP's prevented me and many others from being informed, advised and tested for Prostate cancer until it was too late.

What do others with advanced prostate cancer think about their late diagnosis and the current stance of the National Screening Committee and Health Minister? 

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Posted 26 Sep 2026 at 00:57

I'm sorry for your situation and that of many others.

I did a contribution to the screening committee. One of my points was too much emphasis on over-treatment (some of which I disputed anyway), and not enough emphasis on men who missed the opportunity to be cured.

We have just done exactly the same as the US did in 2012, discourage PSA testing. So we know exactly what will happen. In the next few years, the percentage of later stage and metastatic diagnoses will increase, and the percentage of early stage diagnoses will decrease. In the US, this became blindingly obvious within 5 years, and they announced they where reversing the decision, although that took another year.

Having said that, there are now a lot of GPs who do know better than the NSC. I was doing an awareness event yesterday, and there were many questions on screening and the recent withdrawal of the Prostate Cancer Risk Management Pathway (PCRMP) which I had to explain. After my talk (which was for a GP surgery), the GP stood up and said they'd discussed it in the practice, and decided they would still give a PSA test to any man who asked, but that's going to be inconsistent and some men aren't going to be able to get one that way. As you mention, there's lots of charity testing, and that's increasing at a high rate. 

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Posted 25 Sep 2026 at 16:00
Mac21,

This current attitude makes it very hard on men like you because some will develop seriously advanced cancer before being diagnosed, and some will die younger than they might have done had they been diagnosed much earlier. I was lucky in 2007 to have a GP who when taking blood for something else suggested he add a PSA test. Knowing nothing about PCa at that time, no doubt like most other men, I said rather flippantly, "well your taking my blood already, so do whatever you want with it." That was for me a life preserving suggestion which I came to appreciate in due course as my PSA was 17.6 on diagnosis and my staging T3A. So it had already reached the stage where the surgeon I saw said he didn't really want to operate. (I have had a lot of treatment since but am currently in remission.) A few years on before diagnosis and I could have been in a similar position to you.

The powers that be in the UK reason that a treatment only saves a small number of lives because most men die with PCa than of it, so the more men who have PSA and high numbers, will want MRI and treatment, this will results in more men suffering unnecessary harms. Then there is the fact that there would be insufficient Diagnostic and Treatment equipment and trained staff to cover the huge number of extra cases without extra money and trained personnel. The NHS has has to provide for a more elderly and increasing population, acting as carers in some cases and using more expensive equipment and drugs. The NHS stopped doing cosmetic work long ago and dentistry, other than more basic things and the rates for that work has been creeping up. The way things are going, I can envisage a time when men not only have to pay towards their diagnosis but towards treatment, just like in dentistry or have private insurance. Men, and women for their problems should have this spelled out to them and be made aware just like it is known that if you visit some countries you need to be vaccinated. Modern day NHS just can't do everything as was originally envisaged at inception. Health knowledge could and should be passed on to people along with the thought that they might have to contribute directly if they want the most costly and effective treatment.

Barry
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Posted 26 Sep 2026 at 12:48

Thank you Mac21 for your post.

I am of the "had no idea, lumped in a PSA test with other blood tests for an entirely different matter" category - with a receptive Trainee GP on the end of the request....

PSA of 953, tests found stage 4, Gleason 4+5, Grade group 5 - a bit of a life changer!

Whilst chatting with my oncologist at my first appointment we briefly touched on the asymptomatic nature of the diagnosis and the lack of screening.  I suggested that perhaps the problem wasn't the screening/results but a need for a better test - to which he vehemently agreed!

I felt so angry about the "what ifs" surrounding this ticking time bomb inside me, with the question now of "how long" over-riding many thoughts - but I know I am in with a good chance of many years ahead.  I am on a very expensive treatment pathway: HT for life (Darolutamide is not a cheap drug), have completed chemotherapy and have radiotherapy coming up.  I am a little confused as to the model being utilised for balancing testing versus treatment when finding out too late leads to expensive long term treatments?

There must be a better way to stop men from dying in their thousands each year from this disease just because we do not have an adequate screening programme.  This is one of the reasons I supported PCUK in my recent Tour de 4 ride.

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

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Posted 26 Sep 2026 at 20:38

Free PSA is not used by the NHS as far as I know, although it is offered by the 3rd-party labs which some hospitals use (such as TDL).

I think the work in associating Free PSA with Prostate cancer was mainly done by Graham Fullford and his researcher at Manchester University (whose name I can't recall, but he's an excellent presenter). They use it to generate a more specific result in the range where PSA isn't very specific, originally when PSA is from 3-10, but last I heard they changed to use it when PSA is from 2-10. They have the lab automatically run the free PSA analysis when the PSA result is within this window.

User
Posted 09 Oct 2026 at 10:00

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
On 8 October 2026 the media reported a study called the National Prostate Cancer Audit

Hi, Mac.

The audit makes interesting reading and is summarised here.

https://www.natcan.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/NPCA-SotN-2026_Patient-and-Public-Report-v2.0.pdf

Here's the Royal College of Surgeons response to it.

https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/news-and-events/media-centre/press-releases/npca-press-release-2026/

Edited by member 09 Oct 2026 at 10:12  | Reason: Reduce text

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Posted 09 Oct 2026 at 10:17

Thanks Mac/Adrian

I did see the report in the Times this morning.  Good to get some news that is encouraging…especially as I am in the HT/Docetaxel/Rt group!

I did screenshot the article and send it around to my mates, again with a plea to get tested.

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 10 Oct 2026 at 11:59

Hi Mac

Wow - that is an impressive PSA !!  I thought I was high at 953!

I took the approach to have everything that was offered - and it is a lot, but I am fit (well still getting over a hernia op three weeks ago...) and have tolerated the meds well so far.  My aim is to stay around to see my grandkids grow up - so whatever it takes!!

I will update my profile as things go along, but I have been "undetectable" for about six months now so things looking positive.

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 11 Oct 2026 at 15:55

When I first started doing awareness, the figures were (if I recall correctly) 48,000 men per year diagnosed and 11,800 deaths per year. The figures are now 68,000 men/year diagnosed and 12,000 deaths per year. This might suggest we're getting better at keeping metastatic men alive, and given the number of new treatments which have occurred in this space, that's not surprising.

Another interesting data point was the ProtecT trial results. This was an early trial of Active Surveillance, where men suitable for AS were randomised to AS, RALP, or RT. At the 10 year followup, a significantly higher percentage of men who were initially randomised to AS had become metastatic than for those randomised to RALP or RT. They fully expected that by the 15 year followup, a higher percentage of the men who were initially randomised to AS would have died, but by the 15 year point, this was not the case. This again was because we've got significantly better at keeping metastatic men healthy and alive over that period.

(In the ProtecT trial, it should be pointed out that it the rate of metastatic disease in all groups was quite low. Also, this trial started before MRI could be used to find prostate cancer.)

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Posted 25 Sep 2026 at 16:00
Mac21,

This current attitude makes it very hard on men like you because some will develop seriously advanced cancer before being diagnosed, and some will die younger than they might have done had they been diagnosed much earlier. I was lucky in 2007 to have a GP who when taking blood for something else suggested he add a PSA test. Knowing nothing about PCa at that time, no doubt like most other men, I said rather flippantly, "well your taking my blood already, so do whatever you want with it." That was for me a life preserving suggestion which I came to appreciate in due course as my PSA was 17.6 on diagnosis and my staging T3A. So it had already reached the stage where the surgeon I saw said he didn't really want to operate. (I have had a lot of treatment since but am currently in remission.) A few years on before diagnosis and I could have been in a similar position to you.

The powers that be in the UK reason that a treatment only saves a small number of lives because most men die with PCa than of it, so the more men who have PSA and high numbers, will want MRI and treatment, this will results in more men suffering unnecessary harms. Then there is the fact that there would be insufficient Diagnostic and Treatment equipment and trained staff to cover the huge number of extra cases without extra money and trained personnel. The NHS has has to provide for a more elderly and increasing population, acting as carers in some cases and using more expensive equipment and drugs. The NHS stopped doing cosmetic work long ago and dentistry, other than more basic things and the rates for that work has been creeping up. The way things are going, I can envisage a time when men not only have to pay towards their diagnosis but towards treatment, just like in dentistry or have private insurance. Men, and women for their problems should have this spelled out to them and be made aware just like it is known that if you visit some countries you need to be vaccinated. Modern day NHS just can't do everything as was originally envisaged at inception. Health knowledge could and should be passed on to people along with the thought that they might have to contribute directly if they want the most costly and effective treatment.

Barry
User
Posted 26 Sep 2026 at 00:57

I'm sorry for your situation and that of many others.

I did a contribution to the screening committee. One of my points was too much emphasis on over-treatment (some of which I disputed anyway), and not enough emphasis on men who missed the opportunity to be cured.

We have just done exactly the same as the US did in 2012, discourage PSA testing. So we know exactly what will happen. In the next few years, the percentage of later stage and metastatic diagnoses will increase, and the percentage of early stage diagnoses will decrease. In the US, this became blindingly obvious within 5 years, and they announced they where reversing the decision, although that took another year.

Having said that, there are now a lot of GPs who do know better than the NSC. I was doing an awareness event yesterday, and there were many questions on screening and the recent withdrawal of the Prostate Cancer Risk Management Pathway (PCRMP) which I had to explain. After my talk (which was for a GP surgery), the GP stood up and said they'd discussed it in the practice, and decided they would still give a PSA test to any man who asked, but that's going to be inconsistent and some men aren't going to be able to get one that way. As you mention, there's lots of charity testing, and that's increasing at a high rate. 

User
Posted 26 Sep 2026 at 12:48

Thank you Mac21 for your post.

I am of the "had no idea, lumped in a PSA test with other blood tests for an entirely different matter" category - with a receptive Trainee GP on the end of the request....

PSA of 953, tests found stage 4, Gleason 4+5, Grade group 5 - a bit of a life changer!

Whilst chatting with my oncologist at my first appointment we briefly touched on the asymptomatic nature of the diagnosis and the lack of screening.  I suggested that perhaps the problem wasn't the screening/results but a need for a better test - to which he vehemently agreed!

I felt so angry about the "what ifs" surrounding this ticking time bomb inside me, with the question now of "how long" over-riding many thoughts - but I know I am in with a good chance of many years ahead.  I am on a very expensive treatment pathway: HT for life (Darolutamide is not a cheap drug), have completed chemotherapy and have radiotherapy coming up.  I am a little confused as to the model being utilised for balancing testing versus treatment when finding out too late leads to expensive long term treatments?

There must be a better way to stop men from dying in their thousands each year from this disease just because we do not have an adequate screening programme.  This is one of the reasons I supported PCUK in my recent Tour de 4 ride.

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 26 Sep 2026 at 16:55

Hi, thanks for the replies. There is certainly some knowledge and experience on the forum. In my earlier post I  mentioned total and free psa tests. Apparently total minus free = bound psa. This is psa which is bound to blood protein and it is more likely to indicate cancer and hence can be a more useful test on borderline cases. I have never heard of this before. Is this used by the NHS? Is it helpful in diagnosis?

User
Posted 26 Sep 2026 at 20:38

Free PSA is not used by the NHS as far as I know, although it is offered by the 3rd-party labs which some hospitals use (such as TDL).

I think the work in associating Free PSA with Prostate cancer was mainly done by Graham Fullford and his researcher at Manchester University (whose name I can't recall, but he's an excellent presenter). They use it to generate a more specific result in the range where PSA isn't very specific, originally when PSA is from 3-10, but last I heard they changed to use it when PSA is from 2-10. They have the lab automatically run the free PSA analysis when the PSA result is within this window.

User
Posted 09 Oct 2026 at 09:19

On 8 October 2026 the media reported a study called the National Prostate Cancer Audit which stated that the number of men in England diagnosed with incurable metastatic prostate cancer increased from 5696 in 2024 to 6312 in 2025. The study also showed that in England in 2022, 47% of men diagnosed with incurable metastatic disease died within 3 years. This is an improvement in the previous figure of 56% in 2015. So now even more men are being diagnosed too late, but only 47% of them are dying within 3 years. 

User
Posted 09 Oct 2026 at 10:00

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
On 8 October 2026 the media reported a study called the National Prostate Cancer Audit

Hi, Mac.

The audit makes interesting reading and is summarised here.

https://www.natcan.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/NPCA-SotN-2026_Patient-and-Public-Report-v2.0.pdf

Here's the Royal College of Surgeons response to it.

https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/news-and-events/media-centre/press-releases/npca-press-release-2026/

Edited by member 09 Oct 2026 at 10:12  | Reason: Reduce text

User
Posted 09 Oct 2026 at 10:17

Thanks Mac/Adrian

I did see the report in the Times this morning.  Good to get some news that is encouraging…especially as I am in the HT/Docetaxel/Rt group!

I did screenshot the article and send it around to my mates, again with a plea to get tested.

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 10 Oct 2026 at 10:02

Hi CeePee,

Thanks for your replies. I see you had an initial psa of 953 and its now undetectable. Thats great. May I ask, why do you need radiotherapy then? Please forgive my lack of knowledge, I'm sure there is an obvious answer. The new radiotherapy apparently reduces doses from 20 to 5 doesn't it? I was diagnosed incurable, metastatic in early 2021 and I'm still here.

Best wishes and good luck, Mac

User
Posted 10 Oct 2026 at 10:21

Hi Mac

The External Beam RT is given over 20 fractions, the different type of RT known as SABR is given over the lesser amount.  I will be having the EBRT to treat Prostate gland and seminal vesicles.  My oncologist is of a mind to use all of the tools in the box to increase the efficacy of the other treatments in a combined manner - this is a fairly new approach - and is being studied via the STAMPEDE trial.
 So HT plus chemo plus RT to reduce the cancer to as small as possible.  The cancer is in my lymph nodes so the approach is to destroy the “mothership” so it has less of a chance to spread.

Essentially it is all about extending survival time - studies have shown that this approach works!!

Edited by member 10 Oct 2026 at 10:59  | Reason: Additional text

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 10 Oct 2026 at 11:37

Hi CeePee,

Wow, thats a lot of treatment, great that it seems to working. When diagnosed, my psa was so high it didn't look good. I declined the chemo and the trial, I even declined the biopsy. Luckily they started me on hormone therapy and it has worked so far. I expect that one day I will need more treatments, hence my interest in your case.

Many thanks, mac

User
Posted 10 Oct 2026 at 11:59

Hi Mac

Wow - that is an impressive PSA !!  I thought I was high at 953!

I took the approach to have everything that was offered - and it is a lot, but I am fit (well still getting over a hernia op three weeks ago...) and have tolerated the meds well so far.  My aim is to stay around to see my grandkids grow up - so whatever it takes!!

I will update my profile as things go along, but I have been "undetectable" for about six months now so things looking positive.

Best wishes - stay positive

CeePee

User
Posted 11 Oct 2026 at 15:55

When I first started doing awareness, the figures were (if I recall correctly) 48,000 men per year diagnosed and 11,800 deaths per year. The figures are now 68,000 men/year diagnosed and 12,000 deaths per year. This might suggest we're getting better at keeping metastatic men alive, and given the number of new treatments which have occurred in this space, that's not surprising.

Another interesting data point was the ProtecT trial results. This was an early trial of Active Surveillance, where men suitable for AS were randomised to AS, RALP, or RT. At the 10 year followup, a significantly higher percentage of men who were initially randomised to AS had become metastatic than for those randomised to RALP or RT. They fully expected that by the 15 year followup, a higher percentage of the men who were initially randomised to AS would have died, but by the 15 year point, this was not the case. This again was because we've got significantly better at keeping metastatic men healthy and alive over that period.

(In the ProtecT trial, it should be pointed out that it the rate of metastatic disease in all groups was quite low. Also, this trial started before MRI could be used to find prostate cancer.)

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Posted 11 Oct 2026 at 17:26

Hi Andy62,

Thanks for your reply. The ProtecT trial is very interesting, surprising and confusing, but this is what I make of it all. Men considered suitable for Active Surveillance (AS) at diagnosis were split into 3 groups, AS, robotic prostate removal (RALP) or radiotherapy (RP). As would be expected, AS doubled the risk of cancer spread over the years compared to RP or RALP but the death rates for all 3 groups after 15 years were about the same (around 3%). Presumably the cancer spread among the AS group would be picked up very early and treated, and possibly that explains why the death rates were not higher. The lesson from the trial is as expected, we must diagnose at an early stage where AS would be suitable. Diagnosis at stage 4 leaves us with a death rate of 47% within 3 years as shown in the recent National Prostate Cancer Audit. The difference between early and late diagnosis is stark.

Thanks, Mac.

 
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