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Posted 19 May 2014 at 11:24

Hi Guys

Does anyone know where you can purchase concentrated pomegranate juice and how much you need to take on daily basis, I have heard it can slow prostate cancer down and kill cancer cells

User
Posted 19 May 2014 at 12:34

Frank, I have been consuming Pomegranate juice for almost 8 years and initially drank 250ml daily of Suncrest Pomegranate juice as this was the most economic unconcentrated product available but for a number of years since Suncrest stopped supplying it in 1lt bottles I've had to rely on the "own brand" concentrated juice drink that comes in 1lt cartons and available in most supermarkets.

 

I have stuck with Aldi's Rio Doro Pomegranate juice drink for a couple of years now as this one has all the "bits" left in it as opposed to the other supermarket brands which are "clear" and I suspect over processed.

 

Admittedly, all the carton type pomegranate juice drinks have added sugar and are mixed with various other berry juices to enhance the flavour but most have 30% of concentrated Pomegranate juice as the main ingredient and I have had to settle for this as an alternative to the vastly more expensive unconcentrated variants available i.e POM.

 

I'm hopeful that I've been doing the right thing these last few years since changing from the pure stuff to the concentrated alternative and believe that the juice I am drinking is still relatively high in the antioxidants/polyphenols.  Only time will tell.

 

I doubt if I shall ever stop drinking Pomegranate juice as it has become an indispensable part of the psychological armoury of diet and lifestyle changes I made 8 years ago and to remove just one weapon from that armoury might just be the undoing of a successful battle plan!

 

As for the various tablet extract forms of Pomegranate, I've never given them any thought as I can't see how all the processing that goes into converting the Pomegranate fruit into a tablet does the vital ingredients any good.

Edited by member 19 May 2014 at 12:40  | Reason: Not specified

Roger
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Posted 06 Jun 2014 at 13:28

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22977312

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/pom-not-so-wonderful/

http://naturaltreatmentsforcancer.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/diet-and-cancer.html

 

There's no good proof either help with P.Ca. There's no proof or anything I've heard of that says they do harm.

The only caveat is that many juices contain too much sugar. Which adds to the too much sugar in our diets.

P.Ca. doesn't feed off sugar. But sugar does clog up the immune system.

Corn oil  is bad stuff. As would be cranberry oil rather than juice or dried extract.

 

Far better is to juice vegetables + a little fruit such as a few cranberry berries etc. at home. Dilute with pure water if too strong.

All of which I have been lax with & must resume http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-embarassed.gif

 

There have been suggestions not to take juices & some supplements during & just after Radiotherapy. The antioxidants are thought to help the P.Ca. survive the R/T by giving some protection. I'm not sure about during chemo ( for same reasons).

 

Otherwise, there are a lot less healthy drinks available to buy.

User
Posted 11 Jun 2014 at 15:04

Ah just found one. 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Biona-Organic-Cranberry-Super-Juice/dp/B00630M5L8/ref=pd_sim_d_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0D9D2H88ZWSP17WX5XX8

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User
Posted 19 May 2014 at 11:31
Ideally you want to avoid the juices made from concentrate and buy pure pomegranate juice instead. You can buy Pom in most supermarkets - it is a little more expensive than the 'from concentrate' versions that tesco etc sell under their own brands. You can also buy proper pomegranate juice from good health food shops. John alternates between Pom and cranberry juice.
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User
Posted 19 May 2014 at 11:32
I don't think there is any research to support the idea that pomegranate kills cancer cells but plenty to suggest that it helps control PCa.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 19 May 2014 at 11:43

Thanks for the advice lynn much appreciated

User
Posted 19 May 2014 at 12:34

Frank, I have been consuming Pomegranate juice for almost 8 years and initially drank 250ml daily of Suncrest Pomegranate juice as this was the most economic unconcentrated product available but for a number of years since Suncrest stopped supplying it in 1lt bottles I've had to rely on the "own brand" concentrated juice drink that comes in 1lt cartons and available in most supermarkets.

 

I have stuck with Aldi's Rio Doro Pomegranate juice drink for a couple of years now as this one has all the "bits" left in it as opposed to the other supermarket brands which are "clear" and I suspect over processed.

 

Admittedly, all the carton type pomegranate juice drinks have added sugar and are mixed with various other berry juices to enhance the flavour but most have 30% of concentrated Pomegranate juice as the main ingredient and I have had to settle for this as an alternative to the vastly more expensive unconcentrated variants available i.e POM.

 

I'm hopeful that I've been doing the right thing these last few years since changing from the pure stuff to the concentrated alternative and believe that the juice I am drinking is still relatively high in the antioxidants/polyphenols.  Only time will tell.

 

I doubt if I shall ever stop drinking Pomegranate juice as it has become an indispensable part of the psychological armoury of diet and lifestyle changes I made 8 years ago and to remove just one weapon from that armoury might just be the undoing of a successful battle plan!

 

As for the various tablet extract forms of Pomegranate, I've never given them any thought as I can't see how all the processing that goes into converting the Pomegranate fruit into a tablet does the vital ingredients any good.

Edited by member 19 May 2014 at 12:40  | Reason: Not specified

Roger
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Posted 19 May 2014 at 15:18

POM is expensive but over the last few months I have found some good offers on it in the supermarkets so worth shopping round, at least you are getting the proper stuff, instead of 2% concentrate and lots of sugar in the juice drinks.

Fiona.

User
Posted 19 May 2014 at 18:31

Thanks guys as always people on this site very helpful

User
Posted 20 May 2014 at 08:57

POM is the best I've found and as Zarissa says, the price seems to fluctuate from week to week - so I buy in bulk (x4!) when the price dips!

I sometimes dilute it too - which probably defeats the object.

 

flexi

User
Posted 06 Jun 2014 at 09:18

I take the POM brand. I mix it with red grape juice. I've found that Waitrose usually do a reduction once in a while and I stock up at that time. I also drink pure red grape juice from Lidle (good price). The top three anti oxidants are Pomegranate, Red grape juice and Red wine.

Lynne talked about Cranberry juice, but I'm sure I read that whilst it's good for the bladder, you shouldn't take it if you have Prostate cancer?

Edited by moderator 06 Jun 2014 at 10:00  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 06 Jun 2014 at 10:27
Would appreciate confirmation re cranberry and prostate cancer as John has drunk it for a few years and increased his intake since cancer.

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User
Posted 06 Jun 2014 at 12:26

I always thought cranberry juice helped in the fight against PCa so I also would like to hear other members thought on the subject. I am now drinking 8fl oz POM daily dont know if it will work but helps me psychologically.

Frank

User
Posted 06 Jun 2014 at 13:28

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22977312

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/pom-not-so-wonderful/

http://naturaltreatmentsforcancer.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/diet-and-cancer.html

 

There's no good proof either help with P.Ca. There's no proof or anything I've heard of that says they do harm.

The only caveat is that many juices contain too much sugar. Which adds to the too much sugar in our diets.

P.Ca. doesn't feed off sugar. But sugar does clog up the immune system.

Corn oil  is bad stuff. As would be cranberry oil rather than juice or dried extract.

 

Far better is to juice vegetables + a little fruit such as a few cranberry berries etc. at home. Dilute with pure water if too strong.

All of which I have been lax with & must resume http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-embarassed.gif

 

There have been suggestions not to take juices & some supplements during & just after Radiotherapy. The antioxidants are thought to help the P.Ca. survive the R/T by giving some protection. I'm not sure about during chemo ( for same reasons).

 

Otherwise, there are a lot less healthy drinks available to buy.

User
Posted 06 Jun 2014 at 16:48
Many thanks for the links Rob. Sandra
We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
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User
Posted 06 Jun 2014 at 21:34

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20042525

 

http://www.onegreenplanet.org/vegan-health/choline-why-eggs-may-worsen-prostate-cancer/

 

Which way DO we go?

User
Posted 10 Jun 2014 at 12:10

Just been having a closer look at the labelling on Pom Wonderful and see that it is made from a concentrate.

 

Given the price of the stuff I was under the impression that the contents was unconcentrated pomegranate juice.

 

I'm going to give the Biona brand of pomegranate juice a go which is made from unconcentrated juice and no additives whatsoever.

 

Cheapest I can find online  is £3.86 a litre and free delivery.

 

p.s. I'm making the change back to unconcentrated because Aldi have stopped stocking the brand I used to purchase (made from concentrated) and as all the rest in other supermarkets are mixed with water and other juices, it seemed a good time to go back to the pure stuff.

Edited by member 10 Jun 2014 at 12:12  | Reason: Not specified

Roger
User
Posted 11 Jun 2014 at 14:50

anyone know if you can buy cranberry 100%? the best I can find on the shelves is 25% (ocean spray light)

User
Posted 11 Jun 2014 at 15:04

Ah just found one. 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Biona-Organic-Cranberry-Super-Juice/dp/B00630M5L8/ref=pd_sim_d_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0D9D2H88ZWSP17WX5XX8

User
Posted 11 Jun 2014 at 15:08

Biona do a 100% Cranberry Juice but it is scarcely expensive and in fact it's twice the cost of the 100% Pomegranate juice they produce.

 

You will find details of the product here: http://www.biona.co.uk/product-244-4.html

 

and one of the companies that sells it:  http://www.thehealthbay.com/biona-organic-pure-cranberry-juice-750ml.html

 

Updated.  Dave, I think you will find The Health Bay do it cheaper if you buy the 750ml bottle and they offer free next day delivery via DPD who are one of the better courier services.

 

p.s. I've got 15 bottles of the Pomegranate juice being delivered tomorrow and I'll let you know how it is (assuming anyone is interested)http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif

Edited by member 11 Jun 2014 at 15:15  | Reason: Not specified

Roger
User
Posted 11 Jun 2014 at 16:42

Thanks. will check it out (then maybe go to the 'check out' Lol)

User
Posted 12 Jun 2014 at 17:25

I wonder if buying the tablets intsead of the drink might be a good idea to avoid sugar?

User
Posted 12 Jun 2014 at 18:15

If you are looking to avoid the added sugar that goes into the majority of Pomegranate juice drinks then the tablet form may be what you are looking for however, my concern is that how much of the active ingredients (the stuff that has the most benefit to us) is lost in the process of making the tablet.

 

With a pure unadulterated pomegranate juice the only sugars present are the natural ones and not the added ones such as fructose syrup which can be found in most of the "juice drinks" on the supermarket shelves and in the cool cabinets.

 

 

Roger
User
Posted 12 Jun 2014 at 18:45

thanks matey. I already drink POM. I meant Cranberry, sorry for the confusion

User
Posted 12 Jun 2014 at 19:31

I would say that everything I've said about Pomegranate juice and extract can also apply to Cranberry!

Roger
User
Posted 22 Aug 2014 at 16:42

After giving the Biona Pomegranate Juice a go I thought I'd look around for an organic version and found this one and like Biona it is unadulterated and is not made from a concentrate:

 

http://www.organicvillage.org/our-juices/organic-pomegranate-juice-2.html

 

Took delivery of 12 bottles today and wasn't to happy with the taste when compared to Biona but hopefully it will grow on my over the next 48 days.

 

 

 

Edited by member 22 Aug 2014 at 16:43  | Reason: Not specified

Roger
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Posted 09 Apr 2016 at 13:09

Welcome to the forum pomegranate 1000.

I'm sure I speak for my fellow forumites when I say we all take the health of ourselves and our loved ones seriously.

We post here to share our own personal experiences and thoughts on PCa and strive not to advise others on any form of treatment.

Perhaps you may wish to share your own experiences of how you believe pomegranate products have helped you in some way!

 

 

Roger
User
Posted 09 Apr 2016 at 15:12

Hello Pom1000

""The "Pom " juice, so recommended in this forum, is a concentrated juice yet many posters are saying that it isn't !""


""Things such as "Pom" is not from concentrated.""

Confused we are , yourself generating further misinformation.
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User
Posted 15 Apr 2016 at 12:31

I am taking pomegranate juice daily. I have to say I am just using the supermarket stuff and all I have done really is drink this instead of my usual orange juice pre breakfast. I drink about 8 fluid ounces - that's the amount recommended by Patrick Walsh in his Surviving Prostate Cancer book.

I also drink some green tea. I do these on the basis that even if they don't do any good (and there is some evidence that they can help) they certainly won't do any harm.

 
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