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Posted 21 May 2016 at 16:59
Dad diagnosed aged 57 in 2009 locally advanced pc so no surgery option. He had hormone and radiation and his psa levels have since been very low like 0.01 and has very slowly crept up to now 2.3. This has doubled since the previous 6 months. What are the next steps? Does anyone have a similar story ? We are all very stressed.
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Posted 21 May 2016 at 21:10

Hi Laura, sorry to hear your dads PSA levels on the increase, I do not have any experience of locally advanced PCa and cannot help you but has your dad been to an appointment with his specialist to discuss the next step. If he has not seen anyone yet I would start rattling the bars of the cage to get some attention.

My thoughts are with you and your dad, I am sure there will be someone on here that will be able to advise and help your dad.

At the very least you could call the specialist nurse on this site and they will have some help for you and tell you what do or to ask the specialists when your dad does see them.

Best wishes Chris/Woody

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Posted 21 May 2016 at 23:42

Hi Laura,

The only thing one can say with certainty is that quite a substantial number of men who have had HT/RT, especially those diagnosed with locally advanced PCa ,experience a progressive increase in their PSA, sometimes starting several years after treatment. (I am one of them).

PSA is one of the things oncologists consider in deciding what the next steps can be and when. They have the whole histology of the patient on which to make a decision though it has to be said that some are more proactive than others in trying to establish where any new tumours are, whilst others may for example wait until the PSA has risen to a certain level (varies from one oncologist/hospital to another) before initiating scans and or treatment, often HT sometimes in conjunction with something else which is termed salvage treatment.

My view is it would be sensible to get the opinion of your dad's consultant on how he views his PSA progression. His GP might be able to arrange this or a route I have used previously is to contact the consultant's secretary for an appointment. In my case although my PSA was only about 1.44 at the time, my consultant felt the way the PSA had increased led him to think that there could be some new or residual cancer in my Prostate. An MRI scan he initiated proved he was right and HIFU (High Intensity Focusedl Ultrasound) was arranged in another hospital as salvage treatment within a trial. However, even if an oncologist is prepared to sanction an MRI with a PSA sub 3, some cancer cells can be so dispersed as not to show up on even a high quality MRI scan. So imminent further investigation can depend on an individual consultant and a particular patient and his push to try to investigate the reason for rising PSA and how/when to start further treatment.

Barry
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Posted 22 May 2016 at 08:38

Hello Laura and welcome.

I hope dad gets some answers soon so he can plan his next steps treatment wise.. Best wishes

Sandra

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Posted 22 May 2016 at 11:54

I think Laura that the 'what does this mean' depends on a) whether dad is still on HT and b) if not, what his previous experience of HT side effects was.

If he is still on HT then this steady rise suggests that some of the cancer cells are learning how to feed without testosterone OR the hormones are not working as well as they used to. In either case, the onco might want to add another hormone to the mix.

If he is not currently on HT, then the rise might simply be because some of his healthy prostate cells are repairing and multiplying. Or it could be that a few cancer cells escaped the RT and are now making themselves known. If it is healthy cells then his PSA should settle again. If the rise continues, he will probably be advised to go back on the HT long-term. Different hospitals / oncos have very different views about when HT should be restarted though (some would do it at PSA2 while others would advise waiting until 5, 10 or even 20.

Whichever what, if dad is not regularly seeing his onco then now is a good time to ask the GP for a re-referral.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

 
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