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Radiation Rocky road - but could be a lot worse.

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Posted 16 Jun 2023 at 12:02

Dean, your posts have touched my soul, your writings are insightful and informative, and for that I thank you.

I hope your pain in managed and you are able to do some of the many things you planned to. You are one brave man who has shared words that can be hard to read, written with sensitivity and style. 

Thankyou Dean. 

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Posted 16 Jun 2023 at 22:06

Thanks everyone for the good wishes - all much appreciated.

 

Hi Lyn. The Prostap HT still seems to be working. A while back one of the injections got delayed by 12 days - completely my fault, and in that time my PSA rose dramatically, falling back to its previous level shortly after I got the next injection, so it still seems to be doing its job.

 

Hi Steve86. Thanks for the info about the Meta Quest 2 VR headsets. I will be ordering one over the weekend - can't wait to see what they are like - I've never experienced VR before. I'm assuming they'll work with my smartphone to connect to the web?

 

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Posted 16 Jun 2023 at 22:19

Whilst I've been in the Hospice several Medical Students have come to talk with me about my experience with cancer. I've gone through the medical history and how I ended up here, but also another side of it which I think is just as significant. This may sound odd or hard to figure but here goes.

 

The three and a half years between July 2019 when I was diagnosed and February 2023 were the best and happiest years of my life. It may sound strange, but I'll try to explain.

 

When I was diagnosed my GP signed me off work sort of indefinitely. I didn't want to waste another minute of my life in that crumby stressful unrewarding job where there was endless abuse and agro, and little support - I was in teaching... 'nuf said.

 

My financial situation changed overnight. My Pension pot was nowhere near enough to provide for a comfortable retirement if I were to live to a ripe old age, but this was off the cards and now 4 years was about it. Suddenly my pension pot looked very adequate.

 

I've always loved to travel, but time and money restrictions meant that I'd still not made it to so many of the places on my wall map that I'd highlighted. Now was the time to start really travelling.

 

And so I did - a little cautiously at first. I made it to California before the first round of Chemo started. Then COVID got in the way, and for the next two summers it was only possible to travel within the UK. So I did, extensively. When in November 2021 the USA lifted its' travel ban I took one of the first flights to Los Angeles and spent a month travelling around southern California, and on it went into 2022: Chile, South Africa, Iceland, Norway, Iceland (again!), Munich, Dubrovnik, Chamonix, USA, USA (again!), Hong Kong, Costa Rica and finally Ecuador. I took every opportunity to go places and kept it up until I returned from Ecuador in January 2023.

 

It was a bit crazy at times, but I sensed that time was not on my side. On the flights returning from Ecuador I was aware that things weren't right. Subsequent scans showed how far the cancer had spread. Since then the only travelling I've done has been to Hospital, and it's obvious I won't be going to anymore places. I wish I'd done more whilst I was able (hindsight, sigh...), but realistically it's hard to see how that would have worked.

 

In all these travels one moment sticks in my memory and perfectly exemplifies what it was all about. Last October I made it to Canon Beach on the Oregon coast. It's a place I've wanted to visit for over 20 years.

 

The long-term affects of all my treatments was taking its toll and fatigue/lack of energy was becoming a significant issue. To the north of Canon Beach is Ecola State Park - an area of forest and coastline with a number of walking trails leading to beaches and viewpoints you just have to see and savour. And so I did. On the Oregon Coast Trail from Ecola Point (from where you get the classic view of Canon Beach) to Indian Cove I found the going hard, so I parked myself on a tree stump to rest. After a minute I got my breath back and started to look around. I could glimpse the Pacific Ocean between the trees and hear the waves crashing on the shore below. I was surrounded by ferns on the forest floor along with fallen trees covered in moss and more ferns. Different types of moss were draping from the branches of all the standing trees. Above a clear blue sky and sunlight making it through the trees to light up the forest around me. It was so beautiful. I just sat there taking it all in. I really can't find the words to describe what I experienced in that moment, and there have been so many other such moments on my travels since July 2019.

 

If I'd not been diagnosed with cancer then I would never have been able to travel around the world, seen and experienced all the places I have, and had an amazing time doing it all. In all this time I've never felt sad, angry, unhappy or sorry for myself, or done the "why me" thing. Instead I embraced the situation, accepting it for what it was and whilst understanding all the negatives, looking for positives that were now possible. The positive was to be able to live the life I'd always wanted, if only for a limited time. I had no control over all the negative stuff - the cancer and everything that goes with it, but the positive - how I lived my life in the time left - I could control.

 

No matter how great a time I've had of it living the life I'd always wanted, it was a bittersweet experience. The reality of living with cancer was always there in the background and I always knew how the story would end. Eventually the time would come to pay the Piper. So here I am, lying on my very adjustable bed in the Hospice looking back on all that's been. Until February 2023 the cancer had been under control. There were times back in 2021 and 2022 when the going got tough for a while, but I always bounced back. Most of the time since diagnosis things have been fine, and I've lived the dream. For this I'm really grateful and consider myself very fortunate. It is these thoughts that I keep in my mind now and will in the coming days - whatever they bring.

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Posted 17 Jun 2023 at 08:35

Yes, as long as you have a hotspot or wifi sharing available from your smartphone then you are golden.

There are plenty of websites, youtube channels and forums dedicated to it but when you have it set up just search and install "Wander" for starters - let us know what you think as it blew us away :)

Take care and best wishes

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Posted 17 Jun 2023 at 09:51

Dean your story is heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time, my husband was diagnosed in April 2021 with advanced metastatic pc and I keep trying to tell him to live for today, he’s still working he says he doesn’t want to go into his pension yet but I ask him what are you waiting for he’s 61, his mobility isn’t great, we met up with my son, daughter in law and 2 grandchildren in Florida last November we got airport assistance which was a godsend and we hired electric wheelchair for Disney parks, I’ve just talked him into going to Florida again this November but not doing Disney parks this time.

best wishes

ann

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Posted 17 Jun 2023 at 19:46

Hi Ann
I guess everyones journey through cancer is different. I went through a day or two of feeling bewildered, and then literally overnight got my act together, accepted the situation for what it was and then got on with my life. That's a lot easier said than done. I've been described on more than one occasion as "hard bitten", and it's probably the right description. Maybe this characteristic has allowed me to deal with cancer in the way I have.

 

Everyone will find their own way, depending on their life experiences. My counsellor tells me that some people never come to terms with it.

 

Reading what you say it sounds like your husband hasn't yet accepted the situation he's in. You might well ask what is he waiting for? Are there any support services available to you via the Hospital where he is treated or Macmillan? They may well have experience with this sort of situation and can advise and help you and your husband.

 

If he was diagnosed two years ago at a similar age to me and with a similar(ish) condition then he must be doing well to still be working - I just didn't have the energy at that point. Does your husband really enjoy his work? If yes then maybe it's a big part of his life which he doesn't want to let go.

 

The Pension issue maybe much more important and you should seek advice from someone who knows what they're talking about. Are there in-service death benefits and if so are you named as the beneficiary. Can he liquidate his pension pot and if so how much would he get. If he does nothing and dies before retirement age what would happen to his benefits - is there a widows pension payable, how much would it be, and when would it be payable. It's a minefield, and you need good advice.



Hope this is helpful
oh, and enjoy your trip to Florida and spending time with your family.

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Posted 17 Jun 2023 at 23:58

Anyone diagnosed with incurable cancer should see a financial adviser. Potentially, you lose a large amount of the pension pot by dying too soon. John and I saw a financial adviser a couple of years after the salvage RT when the PSA rose above 0.1 again. The actuary calculated that John may live to 74 and the FA calculated that if he retired early and took the maximum tax-free lump sum, it would be 17 years before he became worse off. We decided that if he lived another 17 years we could accept the small loss.
With that tax-free lump sum, we have travelled, he has been able to follow his many hobbies with the best quality equipment, we have lived our best life. If I don't get the retirement years with him that we had expected before the diagnosis, I will know that we did things while we could. If he lives to 76, we may lose out by a few hundred pounds but we will have beaten the casino.

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"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 18 Jun 2023 at 17:28

Hi Dean I don’t think it’s so much he hasn’t accepted he has cancer I don’t think he’s accepted just how serious it is, before cancer he worked 12 hour shifts, days and nights which he done for years, when he was first diagnosed and going through chemo he was on the sick, after 6 months he went back to work his work have been really good about things and he went back on 8 hour days 5 days a week, he is always absolutely knackered when he comes in and he said if he packs in it like he’s giving up. Ps his work is office based now.

best wishes

ann

hi Lyn 

my husband has had some financial advice from his pension advisor from work, all of his pensions are all in one pot now and are in a drawdown pension, he is due to speak to him again in a couple of months time

best wishes

ann

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Posted 18 Jun 2023 at 17:38

I also think he worries about what he would do if he retires as he isn’t very active he struggles with his mobility so I think him going to work gives him a purpose.

ann

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Posted 18 Jun 2023 at 19:29
Hi Ann

Glad to hear you've had pension advice - hope this all goes well.

I understand what your husband means when he talks about his job. If its something he really enjoys and it's a big part of his life then it's no bad idea to continue. He sounds to have a very good employer.

His not accepting how serious the cancer is - maybe he just want his life to continue as it is - a life he's happy with. But at some point it's all going to change, and not for the best. He needs to be ready for this when it happens.

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Posted 18 Jun 2023 at 19:53

Yeah Dean his employer was really good he was fully paid for the 6 months he was off and gave him a different job when he returned as there was no way he would be able to go back on 12 hour shifts. I showed him your story just to show him how quickly things can changed, I’m not saying that it will happen to him but he needs to be aware.

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Posted 03 Jul 2023 at 13:57

Several weeks since my last post, and so much has changed - little of it for the better.  For a while things were looking up, sufficiently enough for me to be discharged from the Hospice after a stay of 23 days.  It seemed like a good idea at the time, but it rapidly turned into a disaster.  After 4 days I was taken on a stretcher back to the Hospice - it was fortunate that a bed was available - and I've been here since.  Blood tests on arrival showed a heamoglobin score of 53.  It should be (and in early April was) between 120-130, a score of less than 80 is of concern, and less than 70 gets you a blood transfusion.  Other blood scores were on the low side.

Hard to believe that things had deteriorated so much so fast.  I got 3 litres of blood transfused over the next few days, which managed to push my heamoglobin score up to 72.

The Doctor mentioned that the cancer was spreading through the bones in my pelvis, and affecting my bone marrow in the process.  Another problem is internal bleeding.  They could send me to hospital for tests and scans, but if the result was a need for surgery then it stops there.

I had a very open and frank talk with one of the Doctors here and she advised me that I had less than 6 months to live.  The cancer seems to be quite aggressive.  It's impossible to predict how the cancer might progress.  But my pain meds seem to be working now (and so they should be judging by the dosage!) and I will be kept comfortable.  It's just as my GP told all those years ago - my death will be much better than most: comfortable and peaceful.

It's a strange place to be.  I've slowly come to the realisation that end of life isn't far away.  I'm barely able to walk.  With sticks I can manage a hundred metres or so.  Unaided I can get around my room here, but I look like a puppet from Thunderbirds - feet flopping around and arms trying to keep balance.  You've got to laugh... sigh.

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Posted 03 Jul 2023 at 14:03

Hi Steve86

I finally got my Meta Quest VR2.  It's like you say, totally amazing.  Thanks for the recommendation.

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Posted 03 Jul 2023 at 14:35
Hi Dean - firstly I glad you got the Quest - when you don't have the mobility it can give you a lot of enjoyment to 'get out there' and see things you remember and places that you have never seen.

You have come to terms with your own mortality and in a way that is a blessing - many don't have that. We will all be there one day and to have the support of the hospice staff must be a blessing too as well the meds that ensure your time is relatively pain free.

Try and make the best of the time you have left and try and keep in touch as much as you are able - I know you bring a lot of support to others on the forum - you have a certain style that resonates with me, and I am sure, others too.

Thinking of you.

Steve

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Posted 03 Jul 2023 at 19:20

Hi Dean

I totally agree in what Steve says,so many like myself are reading your thread as 1 day I shall be in the situation you find yourself,please try to keep on posting your story.

Regards Phil 

 

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Posted 03 Jul 2023 at 20:22

Hi DeanA,

So sorry to hear that things have gone further downhill for you.  I hope that you are getting all the kindness, care and support that you need and deserve from both the professionals around you and from any personal friends and family that you might have.

I wish you peace and contentment, as I'm sure everyone on here does.

Take good care of yourself.

JedSee.

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Posted 03 Jul 2023 at 20:27
Hi Dean,

I'm new to this community, Prostate Cancer and your Rocky Road thread.

I have just read through top to bottom and can only echo what others have said re the inspirational way you have written about your battles, fears and dreams.

You certainly grasped the opportunity to fulfil some of those dreams during your travels over those "best and happiest three and half years".

Thank you for sharing and I really hope you get to see that Hellebore bloom!

Mark

 
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