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Erecting the Erection - Medication

User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 22:37

I'm gonna check this out Chris

Can't find it !

Edited by member 25 Feb 2016 at 22:43  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 23:27

CJ, fantastic news :-)

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 07:07
Chris

Link to page.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jsU3IsgiaO8C&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=flaccid+intercourse&source=bl&ots=wI9rQOFf0Z&sig=6DDBAO3LMS5Cmf66tgKF3c3zDlI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD-pj47JTLAhVJthQKHblNCa8Q6AEIGjAE#v=onepage&q=flaccid%20intercourse

You may need to copy and paste it into your browser. I would copy and paste the extract but I suspect that may not be allowed.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 10:04

Thanks for posting the link Chris, a brilliant read!

Pablo

User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 10:29

Just can't get this to work at all on any device. Just shows the book and asks me to buy it

User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 13:52

That's odd - the link worked fine for me on the laptop and on my phone although not on the ipad.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 15:28
Chris J I was so happy for you when I got your message yesterday I was smiling from ear to ear. Good job you and El were home alone !!

C. Chris what an interesting read I would never have thought this possible, wish I had heard of it before.

It is really wonderful how you all share the most intimate information to help each other out here.

Best wishes to you all for a lovely weekend.

Xxx

Mo

User
Posted 27 Feb 2016 at 10:34

Still using pump and muse with little success; I have found that 400 mg of ibuprofen helps with the Muse pain, but should only be used after a meal, which is another restriction. Has anyone tried Muse, and then using the pump. I wonder if the pump would just suck the Muse medication  back out. If I had a lot of Muse I would give it a try, but prescriprions limit the number to one a month-I know its expensive!

User
Posted 27 Feb 2016 at 11:33
Sghk200

What dose of muse are you using, too much muse can have a negative effect.l seem to be getting a better result with 500 rather than the 1000. Not tried the pump after muse, but recently inserted muse then needed to urinate within 20 seconds and expected the worst but still got a big swelling. I still need to stimulate the penis for a full reaction and following an orgasm stimulation can reserrect a flaccid penis a second time. As before read the instructions urinate first then insert muse rub penis between hands for 10 seconds, walk around and keep stimulating for 10 mins. I was trying to do it too soon and sometimes finished up with a fully swollen penis after the event. Rubbing the muse in the penis for 10 seconds should keep it in the penis if you use the pump after, but not tried it so not sure. It is not really a liquid so cannot see the pump pulling the muse out, but correct me if I am wrong.

Stimulation is the key, make sure you are both focused on the job in hand.

I do not use the word erection because although I can get 100 percent of the pre op size it never stands up.

Curious to know if fully recovered men get full pre op erections.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 27 Feb 2016 at 13:06

Interesting Chris
After the Viridal the other day I was maybe not as long but very thick compared to normal ( probably all the pumping ) and no he didn't stand up but boy was he able , with some " root " as I call it which made it feel normal again and controllable. Ringed pump erections are nowhere near as good. And yes even with this med , he reacted better with plenty of stimulation. He was good for another I think but no time.

Oh , to get even the slightest natural stir ... :-//

Edited by member 27 Feb 2016 at 13:08  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 27 Feb 2016 at 14:03
Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Still using pump and muse with little success; I have found that 400 mg of ibuprofen helps with the Muse pain, but should only be used after a meal, which is another restriction. Has anyone tried Muse, and then using the pump. I wonder if the pump would just suck the Muse medication  back out. If I had a lot of Muse I would give it a try, but prescriprions limit the number to one a month-I know its expensive!

Under NHS guidelines you are entitled to one per week so don't accept this one-a-month malarkey lying down.

If the pump isn't working you are possibly still doing something wrong - do you

- keep the pubic hair very short (or better still, shave)

- use plenty of lube on your pubic skin and on the end and inside of the tube

- have you perfected the technique of transferring the ring from tube to base of penis without breaking the vacuum (from observing J, I think that is the most difficult bit)

- tried combinations of two different rings

- tried a different brand of ring (we had the Osbon Erecaid but used Farnhurst rings)

If you can get engorged in the vacuum, there will be no physical reason not to remain engorged once you place the ring(s)

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 29 Feb 2016 at 10:58

The pumping is OK; finding it a bit cumbersome, and non-romantic having to disappear to use it for 10 min or so is a bit of a turn-off. Im using two rings of the soft silicone variety, harder rings I cant even get on the cylinder.(im 14 months post surgery by the way; PSA now undetectable!!) So im experimenting with Muse (1000mcg) which seems less of a put off; Results are very variable, and judging by the comments above about too much being inhibitory, maybe i should try to get a lower dose. Is inhibition why one shouldn't use cialis together with muse?

User
Posted 29 Feb 2016 at 11:03

I think the ED nurses in general ( including mine ) tell you not to try any two aids at the same time. Very hard to judge and anticipate any response or control it. Best to stick to one thing at a time and alter its dose to get the best effect , unless told otherwise by a health professional. Mixing drugs can certainly cause bad side-effects
Chris

User
Posted 01 Mar 2016 at 07:02
Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

The pumping is OK; finding it a bit cumbersome, and non-romantic having to disappear to use it for 10 min or so is a bit of a turn-off. Im using two rings of the soft silicone variety, harder rings I cant even get on the cylinder.(im 14 months post surgery by the way; PSA now undetectable!!) So im experimenting with Muse (1000mcg) which seems less of a put off; Results are very variable, and judging by the comments above about too much being inhibitory, maybe i should try to get a lower dose. Is inhibition why one shouldn't use cialis together with muse?

Sghk200

Why do you disappear for 10 minutes, the OH should be part of the process.The smaller rings can be hard to get onto the tube.

There seems to some confusion about how many doses of muse you get a month.I am on multiple medications but under the care of my ED consultant, wise advice from the others not to experiment yourself, there can be some serious consequences.

Good news on the PSA long may it continue.

Thanks Chris.

User
Posted 01 Mar 2016 at 07:24
Great news Chris - we also have great results with viridal. Sometimes too good- takes a while to shift. Occasionally quite close to the four hours. As someone has said, nasal decongestant...
User
Posted 01 Mar 2016 at 09:26
Great Louise

Glad you sorted at last. I can't wait to try again and I got 4 more in two days so no supply probs. I think one a week is enough for us at the moment anyway. I knew I just needed a bigger dose. I bought some decongestant just in case thanks

User
Posted 03 Mar 2016 at 16:21

I'm certainly under a consultant, but when things arent working its natural to try someting else. There are some scientific papers showing benefit of using cialis together with MUSE, and the consultant suggested using ibuprofen to cut down the pain

User
Posted 03 Mar 2016 at 19:07

Generalisation but GPS are not allowed to prescribe Cialis or viagra and Muse or Caverject to the same patient. John had 5mg Cialis (the one a day dose) and Caverject under the supervision of the ED nurse. Later he managed to get Cialis, viagra and Caverject all at the same time but the GP couldn't presribe it - only Xie - and under strict instruction that he must not take the Cialis or viagra 24 hours before or after the injection. Having experienced a 3am trip to A&E with priapism, he would teĺl you it isn't worth the risk.

The cialis/muse research is with daily dose Cialis not 'event' dose.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 04 Mar 2016 at 17:21

So some news. Sorry if too much information but I guess not or you wouldn't be looking at this thread.
Since my great success with the Viridal the other week I have been getting far more tingles down below at all times of the day and night , but when checking nothing there. This morning , at 8 1/2 months post op , I had my very first erection. Nearly brought a tear to my eye tbh. Yes he was pathetic and maybe only a 20% erection but it was definitely an erection responding to stimulation and orgasms are good now too. This has cheered me beyond belief. Yes maybe physical advances but it has to be noted that psychologically the Viridal erection has boosted me , and also there has been a great release of mental stress the last couple of days regarding my treatment.
To be fair I'm more than happy that I can probably get an erection on tap with the Viridal and today when I asked my doctor if I might be able to get 8 per month he said no problem at all which was a result , as we are planning a bit more activity whilst I still have libido.
One thing I would say is that I have been getting very very bored of the pump having seen no results. I have used it virtually every single day from 8 weeks after the op. But I've soldiered on despite this and maybe this is now at last paying off.
So all told this week things are happier in the Chris J camp , and I hope everyone else continues with good fortune. Have a good weekend.
Chris

User
Posted 04 Mar 2016 at 17:30

Great news for you both Chris,

Persistence pays off. If you had not pumped it up all this time, there may have been no live tissue to respond to the Viridal?

Have a great weekend.

dave

All we can do - is do all that we can.

So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)

I am the statistic.

 
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