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User
Posted 04 Oct 2015 at 08:20

Yes lol

It is frustrating waiting but
you have to ask yourself is there is a difference between eating healthy and going on a restrictive diet that might cause harm .

Ray

User
Posted 04 Oct 2015 at 09:21

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Just had copious amounts of real ale and cheese and biscuits while watching the Aussies destroy us at rugby :(

Oh well...can't have everything in life

Bri

Oh yes you can you can  SUPPORT WALES  COME ON NOW BOYO!!!!

User
Posted 04 Oct 2015 at 10:04
Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Just had copious amounts of real ale and cheese and biscuits while watching the Aussies destroy us at rugby :(

Oh well...can't have everything in life

Bri

Oh yes you can you can SUPPORT WALES COME ON NOW BOYO!!!!

Nnnnnoooo!!!!...good luck with the rest of the tournament...but you need to beat Australia to make it easier...

User
Posted 04 Oct 2015 at 12:18
Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Yes lol

It is frustrating waiting but
you have to ask yourself is there is a difference between eating healthy and going on a restrictive diet that might cause harm .

Ray

No Ray couldn't be restrictive like my food too much :-)

Just few changes as already think it pretty healthy

Drink a glass of pomegranate juice

Use soy products rather than dairy based

Eat less red meat

Green tea to replace a few of my normal black tea

So nothing major just a few alternatives

User
Posted 04 Oct 2015 at 12:51

Gary

Green tea :) :) after 11 years I've finally tried it. I quite like it and the version with mint.

You have had a load of different views to consider. Whatever path you take enjoy your food and drink as it could be a very long journey.

Ray

User
Posted 04 Oct 2015 at 14:22
I read all this with great interest. I wish my other half would read it all and take note. He refuses to change his diet whatsoever. He is a beef farmer, so eats plenty of red meat. He only has full cream milk (we have young children, otherwise I wouldn't buy it) he doesn't smoke, rarely drinks alcohol, but he eats plenty of cakes and biscuits. I can't stop him. If I make a cake he will eat it for breakfast, lunch and supper! He does work hard so he must burn it off. He eats a similar diet to his parents, they died at 89 and 93 so I just get "it never did Mum and Dad any harm" so I have given up nagging him to change.

It has nothing to do with prostate cancer, but my Dad was healthy, he rarely had alcohol, never smoked, was always on his bike as he didn't drive, he was a good weight (underweight if anything) he ate a fairly healthy diet, he was never off work sick, he died suddenly at age 56 of acute myeloma (cancer of the blood) Yet my Mum is obese, likes a glass of wine most nights, she used to smoke, has a fried breakfast every day and due to her size can't exercise. She is nearly 70 and just had a medical and told she has good cholesterol, her heart is very good for her age etc. it makes me wonder if it is just luck!

I will still be trying to persuade the OH to eat healthier.

User
Posted 05 Oct 2015 at 08:26

Yes I think luck of what genes you inherit and from then whatever causes some to mutate.

However some folks gain more comfort in blaming something. As occupation or lifestyle, smoking etc, doesn't seem to fit in the prostate world diet is the one that gets blamed. How true that is for each to make their own mind up.

Ray

User
Posted 05 Oct 2015 at 12:32

Do we just need something to blame.Mine if got it (still hoping it going to be OK.Is that called burying head in sand)is probably hereditary-which is why I was given MRI

Think diet is something we can control so use that to just have something we can do as helpless to do anything else
My folks mum 80 dad 85 eat what they want always have.Only concession to diet I think is red top milk

A lot of posters say just enjoy food and life - at moment can't do that

Posted elsewhere on here- feel a fraud coming on here looking for answers before know the questions

And feel bit of a wuss when see what other posters are going through

Edited by member 05 Oct 2015 at 12:36  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 05 Oct 2015 at 14:04

Gary to clarify 'blame rather than just bad luck' was a general comment not directed at you.

You're not a wuss just like most of us was at diagnosis time very concerned of what might be -that's normal in my book.

As regards diet I've reduced red meat and dairy, but that was always low, and no processed food. Recently gave up bacon and sausage. That was tough will I continue? So you see I also think diet can help but I just don't go overboard about it

Ray

User
Posted 05 Oct 2015 at 14:23

Ray did understand comment wasn't aimed at me :-)

I too think I eat healthy.Lucky though don't have to give up bacon sausage etc as allergic to pork

Red meat gonna cut back a bit.My problem is the dairy.Until looked at it didn't realise how much I ate and drink of it - milk,cheese,yoghurt,ice cream

Think sensible approach is best we can do.
Gonna try the Pomi t tablets this again based on can't do any harm

See you tried the green tea.Try the one with lemon that one quite nice

Edited by member 05 Oct 2015 at 14:38  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 05 Oct 2015 at 23:20

Gary
I struggled with cutting out the dairy.
Most dairy I used to consume was milk so I started there.
Coconut milk on the muesli (hand made with nut raisins etc) together with sliced kiwi, sliced banana or sliced pineapple in rotation is delicious.
Next was the tea/coffee. I went onto green tea but tried a few mixes and settled on green tea with pineapple and grapefruit black with no sugar (sometimes I add a little Stevia but not often nowadays. Cheese I went onto goats milk cheese and find it very tasty..
I do have toast with organic butter (I tried the goats milk butter but it was yucky) and a bit of organic honey.

I'm trying to graze ie with 5 small meals a day but it doesn't always work

I don't touch processed foods or red meats preferring now to eat salads, fish, chicken, baked potatoes, lots of vegetables.
I do have the odd red wine but not so much.
I'm Trying to follow the Mediteranean Diet.

I'm enjoying the food and certainly don't miss the steaks.
Bacon and beans/tomatoes I have maybe once every 2 weeks to keep my sanity. 😎

Edited by member 05 Oct 2015 at 23:24  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 06 Oct 2015 at 09:41

Fortunately Alan I didn't have to give up bacon it gave me up as makes me ill :-)

Healey will take a look at some of those options

I am now drinking black tea then a green tea etc

Does anyone know why black tea is different to green tea as it all comes from same plant just picked from different parts
Why is one good and one bad

User
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User
Posted 07 Oct 2015 at 16:23

Alan
Grown them for years didn't know the seed was edible

User
Posted 08 Oct 2015 at 19:02

Alan is the oil used for cooking or for dressings?

To look at the seed you would not believe it is edible because it doesn't look appetising
What could you compare it too flavour wise ?

User
Posted 08 Oct 2015 at 20:44
Hello, forgive me if I am thick, but I don't get this hormones in the beef and milk? Farmers are not allowed to give cattle hormones, so is this just natural hormones in their meat andi milk? Surely female hormones in the milk can't play a part in prostate cancer? Interested as we are beef farmers. Thanks.
User
Posted 09 Oct 2015 at 00:13

Dear SJBT,

Re Your post:

Hello, forgive me if I am thick, but I don't get this hormones in the beef and milk? Farmers are not allowed to give cattle hormones, so is this just natural hormones in their meat andi milk? Surely female hormones in the milk can't play a part in prostate cancer? Interested as we are beef farmers. Thanks

If you read some of Dr Jane Plants books / website, you will soon get the drift, it is not just hormones but all the other growth factors etc.

Her point in a nutshell is - The Chinese didn't used to get breast cancer or prostate cancer, and the Chinese don't drink milk.  They don't have much beef either, pork, duck and carp were their staples.

The other myth is you need to consume dairy to make strong bones. 

I guess that your cattle have strong bones, and all they eat is grass, hay and oil cake?  

:)

Dave

Edited by member 09 Oct 2015 at 00:16  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 09 Oct 2015 at 01:55

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Hello, forgive me if I am thick, but I don't get this hormones in the beef and milk? Farmers are not allowed to give cattle hormones, so is this just natural hormones in their meat andi milk? Surely female hormones in the milk can't play a part in prostate cancer? Interested as we are beef farmers. Thanks.

 

There are more than just reproductive hormones in milk - growth hormones are thought to be the concern. Any mother's milk is designed to aid the growth and health of her babies, whether she is human or not. 

 

As an aside, human breast milk contains PSA - I wonder if cow or goat milk does too?

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 09 Oct 2015 at 06:13
Ok, so as I breast fed all my boys for at least 2 years each they are more likely to get cancers? Not sure that can be right. My other half wasn't breast fed anyway.

I have read before about the Chinese not getting breast and prostate cancers.

I will have to read up on it some more one day.

 
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