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Posted 09 May 2025 at 13:13

Franci , I was getting a bit frustrated with the private care setup and lack of a support network. The oncologist was fine, apart his attitude to me wanting PSA tests at what I consider relevant events. I wanted a test before I started the injections but it wasn't forthcoming coming so I got around it a different way. As it turned out my PSA had gone from 6.7 to 13.4. Not sure all my messages were getting through.

Combined with my GP throwing a wobbly at the consultants sarcastic letter and my GP saying any cancer issues were not their problem while I was under private care,I asked for a referral back on the NHS, even then there was an issue with the private /NHS secretary.

So I saw the new but very wise and experienced oncologist yesterday. As I half expected Abiraterone is not available to me  on the NHS, I don't quite meet the criteria. I asked what was better Abiraterone privately or apalutamide on the NHS, he said there was little to choose between them in my situation. 

There is a big difference between private and NHS as regards appointments and setting, but the NHS does offer a better support network. The downside of the NHS is no free tea and biscuits no free parking and a longer wait in the waiting room. The only downside of yesterday we got a £25 parking notice, long story and we are appealing.

Thanks Chris 

 

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Posted 09 May 2025 at 15:24
Thanks Chris, Apalutimide is a lot newer than Abi and it's trials seem universally good. Fingers crossed for a less than next time!
User
Posted 09 May 2025 at 15:38

Hi I think your GP saying they do not work with private care is very strange. My husband is under a urologist privately at the Royal Marsden which is about 45 mins away on public transport. We however wanted PSA testing undertaken at our local hospital and our consultant wrote to the GP who facilitates this three monthly as well as any routine prescription suggested by the consultant. It has been seamless. Oh and the GP undertook a well being appointment following surgery.

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Posted 09 May 2025 at 16:18

Franci, the PSA dropped to 0.89 a month after the zoladex and yesterday it was 0.3, that is 11 weeks after the first injection.

IDK2, everyone I speak to thinks the attitude of our GP surgery is disgusting or unbelievable. If you look at the shared care agreement it does say the care should be separate and that patients should be warned that all costs should be met by the patient.

Thanks Chris 

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Posted 10 May 2025 at 05:59

Hi.

I'm not sure I'm in the right place here but...anyway.

I'm 49....healthy guy....gym goer....but a recovering alcoholic.

I've been  on NHS Testosterone Replacement Therapy for over 3 years and get my PSA checked every year.

It's jumped from 1.9 to 4.0 and now at 5.6 

I had an MRI 2 weeks and results in 3 days. I've been feeling rotten for a while now....groin ache and leg spasms. Mucus in my stools and eractic peeing.

Should I fear the worst?

Thanks 

 

 

 

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Posted 10 May 2025 at 06:54

Mike,

there could be other reasons for your high psa, such an an infection or an enlarged prostate. Generally speaking prostate cancer doesn't cause noticeable symptoms, like your leg spasms or feeling rotten, so until you have more test results, you won't know.

Jules

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Posted 24 May 2025 at 11:03

Hi guys, I had a zoladex injection in Feb 2025, I swapped to decapeptyl three monthly injections in March 2025, next decapeptyl is mid June.  I started apalutamide a week ago. Also started vitamin D two weeks ago. I have had a hip and knee problem for a number of years, osteoarthritis in the hip and a trapped nerve in the shoulder. 

The last week pain in all those areas has increased and I woke up this morning with pain in the shin and upper jaw joint, and a slight pain in the other shoulder joint. I do have a bone density scan on the 9th June. 

Has anyone had a similar experience of bone pain so soon after starting similar meds. 

Thanks Chris 

User
Posted 24 May 2025 at 23:54
Check out Hieronymus, he was having these issues...
User
Posted 04 Nov 2025 at 13:35

Hi guys, I can't believe it is that long since I updated this post, may have been the 502 issue.

I have been on decapeptyl injections and apalutamide for around six months, I also take a vitamin D tablet each day. I think I turned down the alendronic acid. I have grown a very small pair  of boobs not big enough to be noticeable. I still get hot sweats, I am having acupuncture which I think is helping, the sweats are not to bad and only happen in the late evening.

About month two the mood swings were quite bad , perhaps a bit of depression in there as well. I told my CNS that I would be talking to my oncologist about quitting the meds and regaining quality of life over quantity of life, she suggested dropping the dose down to 3 or 2 tablets. After a month on 3 tablets the mood swings and depression had just about gone. Now three months on from that point an back up to 4 tablets and that issue is okay. 

The fatigue and tiredness continues, fatigue usually after my morning walk but can strike at any time. After my morning walk I can come home and fall asleep for half an hour. We are having some work done at home and it seems keeping busy is keeping the fatigue away I still fall asleep in the evening.

The lack of labido is not great but that is what it is. 

So it was a bumpy ride but nothing I haven't handled, I was determined not to have HT and accept the alternative option. Now I have settled into yet another "new normal". You can always stop the meds , but you may not be able to restart them, you can reduce the dosage but you will need to talk to your oncologist.

From someone who was dead against HT , give it a go.

Just had my PSA back <0.03,never had it that low before, I was 0.03 after surgery but not less than. Telephone consultation with oncologist on Thursday. 

Thanks Chris 

User
Posted 04 Nov 2025 at 14:11
Thanks for your update Chris. I have been following your journey. I'm so impressed by how you men soldier on. I have witnessed how hard the mood swings and depression are (and how helpless loved ones are to helping), so really glad the changing to and fro of the dosing worked.

So glad to see your PSA at <.03! This is wonderful news.

User
Posted 04 Nov 2025 at 19:25
Glad to see you got a "less than" Chris and that your adapting to the changes you've been dealt. You've always dealt with the adversity of your unlucky side effects admirably. It's good to hear that the treatment is now working well for you. Long may it continue.

All the best

Cheers

Bill

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Posted 04 Nov 2025 at 19:26
Glad to see you got a "less than" Chris and that your adapting to the changes you've been dealt. You've always dealt with the adversity of your unlucky side effects admirably. It's good to hear that the treatment is now working well for you. Long may it continue.

All the best

Cheers

Bill

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Posted 19 Dec 2025 at 11:44

Another anniversary today, 12 years since I went to see the consultant and was told I had prostate cancer. I remember him saying "if we do nothing you will still be here in ten to fifteen years time". Well we have done lots and still doing things and I have passed the 10 years. 

Thank you for all the support you have given me over the last twelve years, sadly there are so many names that I no longer see on here. Thank you to all the members that keep this forum alive despite it's recent shortcomings. I think Adrian needs a special thank you for his virtual pub. I am sure we all miss the contributions from Lynn. 

Happy Christmas to you all ,thanks Chris 

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Posted 19 Dec 2025 at 11:51

Merey Christmas, Chris. I'm glad to hear of you and I know we'll be hearing of each other occasionally, but for long.

I wish you the best. Keep care❤️

Lola 

User
Posted 19 Dec 2025 at 11:58

Hi Chris,

Great to see you winning long may it lasts am a little way behind you good luck and merry Christmas.

John,

 

User
Posted 19 Dec 2025 at 12:43

Hi, Chris.

You've been through so much in those twelve years, yet you've always been here to help others. You are a true stalwart of this community and an inspiration to us all.   I shall a have pint or two in our virtual pub to celebrate your '12th anniversary'. In the years to come, hopefully we'll celebrate many more. 🍻

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Posted 20 Dec 2025 at 18:11

Happy Anniversary for yesterday Chris, Ive just passed my ninth since diagnosis, not without issues but had an easier journey than you. As Adrian said you are a stalwart of this forum and so thanks very much. Here's to many more Aniversaries🥂

All the best

Cheers

Bill

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Posted 20 Dec 2025 at 18:38
Great news , we on the cusp of our 10th year ! No cure just make the most of the time you have ☹️ well we’ve enjoyed all 10 yrs and intend 10 more yrs . Holidays ,grandchildren plus fun . Enjoy xx

Best wishes Debby x

User
Posted 20 Dec 2025 at 20:29
Merry Xmas Chris!
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Posted 24 Jan 2026 at 16:52

A bit of an update and a question. I have been on decapeptyl and apalutamide for 11 and 9 months respectively. The PSA has come down to 0.03 and the quality of life is carp. My blood pressure has been creeping up and the GP keeps uping the meds. I had my 3 month telephone consultation with my oncologist last week, well with his registrar who kept going back to him. 

The bottom line was, stop the apalutamide for two weeks to see how the BP goes. For someone who wasn't keen to go on HT in the first place, I didn't feel comfortable with that, so I dropped to A quarter of the dose. The BP has dropped slightly, so I bit the bullet and stopped the apalutamide a few days ago. I feel so much better, I don't know what the oncologist will recommend but I don't think I want to go back on them. 

So the question is, are many of you on just decapeptyl injections and is it controlling your cancer.

Thanks Chris 

User
Posted 24 Jan 2026 at 17:15

My husband was offered apalutamide as he was diagnosed stage4 about 3 years ago. He read the side effects and politely declined, as he’d already had a heart attack and has high BP. He continues to have Prostap injections every three months and his alternative off label medications and supplements, his PSA is currently <0.1

He has one stent and his BP is well controlled.He exercises regularly and has a good QOL.

He was diagnosed in 2015 with Gleason 9 Tb3 and then stage 4 three years ago. 

I hope this helps.

Leila 

 

 

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Posted 24 Jan 2026 at 17:30
Hi Chris I had just 3 weeks to decide on Deca alone or Deca and Enza/Abi. In typical CJ style I bombed the serious stuff and just picked Deca. I’ve been on it 5 years mate so I get the QOL loss. But I have kind of adapted to it yet feel 68 rather than 58. It’s failing now and 5 successive PSA rises. It’s 1.1 at moment and they will wait till it’s 4. When I do start Abi or Enza in my case it may only work 6 months. I won’t be having Chemo. I’ll face the maker. Keep well friend
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Posted 24 Jan 2026 at 17:36
Doesn't anyone do intermittent hormone therapy these days? As your PSA has gone so low could be time for a holiday??
 
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