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Posted 01 Mar 2019 at 12:43

Although N is feeling marginally better in himself the reality is pretty awful. Ct scan showed extensive liver and lung secondaries, so bad the onco didn't feel Enzo would be very effective but is happy for N to try in the hope it may improve N enough to try Cabazitaxel.
He was straight up with N that his liver is coping but is so badly diseased it may fail at any time and there will only be weeks left at that point.
Onco will circumvent "new patient " clinic and prescribe the Enzo. N understandably knocked for 6, we didn't expect anything other than bad news given his current state but it's still hard to swallow.
He doesn't want to come home now if there isn't a bed at the hospice, I get that he feels precarious and stress is not helpful in feeling any better.
Back to one foot in front of the other :(

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Posted 01 Mar 2019 at 20:39

Oh dear Kentish, words aren't my thing at the best of times, and they are certainly failing me now.  Such hard news to hear for you both.  Glad at least that the onco will circumvent the processes and get him onto Enzo. 

N's plan about waiting in hospital until a bed is available at the hospice sound like the best plan - security and stability for both of you.  

Sending love to all of you.

 

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Posted 01 Mar 2019 at 20:42
xxxx

User
Posted 01 Mar 2019 at 21:11
Thanks ladies, sending love to all of you and yours. This is b****y hard😢
User
Posted 01 Mar 2019 at 21:14

Thinking about you. xx

User
Posted 01 Mar 2019 at 22:30
Dear kentish , I’ve followed your posts and felt your struggle,all I can do is offer my best wishes .

You are an inspiration to all of us struggling with this crap disease.

Keep strong but also look after yourself.

Love and thoughts to you and your family

Debby

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Posted 01 Mar 2019 at 22:38

Hi Kentish, 

i follow your posts daily, and prey that N has a better day every day. I dont know where your finding the strength from, but im glad you are.

words are difficult to find, i hope you can forgive me. just want to say im thinking about you so much, and am wishing you the very best.

sending love and strength

xxxx

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Posted 02 Mar 2019 at 10:01

Hi Kentish

I'm just back from our little soujourn in the Forest of Dean and didn't log on while away as we needed a break. I'm absolutely shocked and heartbroken to read this news. N must have a terrible form of this disease and his suffering has been unbearable to witness, even from afar. To feel that he is better off in hospital (for what it's worth I agree) shows how bad he feels and his acknowlegement of how things really are. I suppose at least he is being given a chance on Enza, its worked quickly for John but I have to say that his legs are back to filling up and the pain has returned (though intermittent) so I'm a concerned about how long it will last. Our onco appointment for Monday has been canxelled due to lack of staff so we haven't actually seen any results yet. However, it has made a difference and that's the point and hopefully that will also do something for N. From anecdotal evidence Cabazitaxel isn't so harsh as Doxataxel, so hoping that will be a possibility for you both. It's all borrowed time isn't it? That's why I am taking every opportunity to get out with the family, though even in the Forest, John wasn't able to come out for any of the walks, which felt sad. 

Teacups, your situation sounds so sad but you sound so stable and competent, I really feel for you though because i suspect that life isn’t much fun for you, my heart goes out to you both.   I don’t know your full situation (will read profile today), I guess on the plus side you have your man home, though time for a new, softer mattress that suits by the sound of it!

Kentish, I am thinking of you and hoping for a good response to Enza, John seemed to improve within a week plus upping his patches to 25ml, made all the difference to his pain.

 

my love to you both

Devonmaid xxxx

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Posted 02 Mar 2019 at 14:47
Thinking of you all daily. Very frightening !

Strength and wishes xx

User
Posted 02 Mar 2019 at 20:57

Words are all I can offer you both right now, loads of hope and love, keep strong .

Chris.

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Posted 02 Mar 2019 at 20:59

Thank you @ Deblc

Thank you @Merrivale, I think “struggle” is a good description, nothing about this has ever been easy has it!. It’s so easy to get caught up in frantically trying to make things better that its easy to lose sight of the actual living bit. N and I played Rummy (card game) today, for the first time in a long time it felt like we were doing something other than thinking about this disease and its effects. I’m trying to keep myself healthy in both mind and body but I’ve just got over a rotten head cold and the tears keep falling, I don’t know about strong, I think I’m just dogged.

Thank you @ Mrs & Mr L, I don’t think there are any words, just thoughts, and cyber hugs and knowing that I’m not alone even if your paths are not the same as mine. Everyone has experienced grief at some point and can identify with how we are feeling. I appreciate your words, I often don’t know what to write on other posts either.xx

Thank you @Devonmaid, Glad to hear you got away, sorry to hear John wasn’t able to come on any walks, its really tough when they are left out/behind. I don’t know how you feel but I feel really guilty about doing anything “nice” that N couldn’t join in. That’s awful that your appointment was cancelled, I hope your new appointment is soon. Waiting and wondering is exhausting as is the effort of trying not to wonder!
This mornings urologist said he had spoken to the onco and asked if we had too, N said “yes, its not good” and the urologist agreed and said that it would be better to stay in hospital until there is a bed at the hospice rather than going home on Monday if there were still no beds available. After he left, N said to me “You know if I go to the hospice this time I might not be coming out” It’s so sad to hear him acknowledge this out loud but I’m glad I don’t have to pretend otherwise. In his usual way once this was said he moved on to a different subject and when asked by others how it was going, told them he was going to start a new drug and hopefully build himself up for the chemo. Whether this happens or not is irrelevant, his intentions are what’s important.

Thank you @ Chris J, I am only ever scared of the unknown, being told about the scan and the likely symptoms N will experience is truly awful but not frightening. I just want to know how his symptoms can be managed as they arise to relieve him of pain and discomfort. This doesn’t always mean being off his **** on OXYNorm!! Although he does seem to quite like it 😉.

Sending you all big hugs and best wishes for you own situations.
xxKatie

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Posted 02 Mar 2019 at 22:33
I am so sorry that things have become so hard for you both and pray that there is something that can be done and that a hospice bed is available soon.

Thinking of you and praying for you.

User
Posted 02 Mar 2019 at 23:22

Dear Kentish,

Sending love and hugs to you all. Heartbreaking for you,

Vicky xx

Broken crayons still colour 

User
Posted 03 Mar 2019 at 08:57
Hi Kentish

Sending hugs. Been reading your posts recently and feel for you. You are doing an amazing job. Lots of love.

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Posted 04 Mar 2019 at 04:00

Kentish, Hope the past day or two has been OK.  So hard to hear N acknowledge what is happening.  But yes, both recognising it does help somewhat.  Bless him for always looking forward to the next possibility too.  Like you, I am best when I have some idea of what is to come. But it does still frighten me.  As you say, managing the symptoms and comfort are the aim.  At our place we are doing that, but the result is one sleeping beauty a lot of the time.

Devonmaid - I loved hearing of your weekend away.  So good for you both to have that time with the family.  We have very fond memories of time spent near the Forest of Dean - have stayed a couple of times at Symonds Yat.  But yes, it is very hard when you can't both enjoy walks.  And hard to enjoy something you once would have done together. My profile is a very brief sketch, I'm afraid.  But it gives you a general idea.

Love to you both.

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Posted 04 Mar 2019 at 22:48
Thanks lovely people,

N was moved to the hospice this morning, I didn't actually believe it until he was safely tucked up in his bed by the window and I had unpacked his bags. For once it was a smooth transition, hurrah.

He is feeling pretty awful, nauseous, anxious and his bowels are on the go again. The hospice will look at how they can best manage this over the next few days to make him more comfortable. Onco came through with a radiotherapy appointment for lower spine mets, N was positive he wants this so we are off to hospital B for planning scan Thursday morning and zapping next Wednesday. In the usual poor communication , I read that N has spinal mets on his discharge letter, nobody has told us this, onco only told us about liver and lungs, its always not quite enough info isn't it.

Enzo has also been prescribed and I can collect this tomorrow, however, Hospice docs feel like it may have a more negative impact than any benefit and will try and explain this to N tomorrow without robbing hope. Ultimately it will be N's decision whether he takes it or not.

N wants to come home and he managed to voice how scared he was that this might not happen, a very nice social worker in the hospice helped him get this said, he's not one to put these kind of thoughts into words and it was tortuous watching him struggle with saying them but he was so relieved afterwards it was worth it.

Hoping tomorrow brings better symptom control.

I found it impossible to say goodbye to the awesome staff in the hospital, I just could not keep my lip from wobbling and I was afraid I would break into loud sobs if I tried. They were so lovely to both of us I felt awful but I'm sure they understood how near the edge I was. N kept asking if I was ok! I was worried that if he saw how upset I was he would feel even more depressed about going to the hospice. I have put together a hamper of treats and written a card and the Boy will deliver it to the ward on Thursday, I think many of the staff went beyond their duty for N to keep him comfortable. One of the doctors stopped on their way out to tell N it has been a pleasure to meet him and thanked him for being such a lovely patient. A few words can mean a lot sometimes, can't they.

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Posted 05 Mar 2019 at 11:08

Great news about the move back to the hospice.  Is there a view out that window?  Must admit I am thinking a little longingly about the support that being in the hospuce would be.  Sorry - one of those days.

I don't know how you manage to hold back those tears - you are amazing.  I seem to be just on the verge of tears all the time.  Only takes someone to look slightly sympathetic and I'm off.  The lovely comment you had from one of the doctors would have done it for sure.

Good luck with the trips for radiotherapy planning and treatment.  Do you need to double check that there is a nurse allocated and that plentiful pain meds are available??

Hope you both have had a good night.

 

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Posted 05 Mar 2019 at 13:50
I hope things go well this week for you. You are both so brave. I am so glad that the staff were so kind to you and that you will have the support you need. Thinking of you.
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Posted 07 Mar 2019 at 14:01

Teacups, Kentish, I am so moved by your stories. You both truly are an inspiration and should be so proud of yourselves that you are up there fighting for your OH's so magnificently.

I hope that all goes as well as it can for you both, and also for those in the same boat but are not strong enough or wish not to share their journey on here.

Good luck,

Phil

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Posted 09 Mar 2019 at 04:37

Thanks, Phil.  Trying even to put one foot in front of the other is hard at the moment.

 

Kentish, have been thinking of you each day, and wondering how you and N were doing.  So, so, hope all is OK.

 
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