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PSA 7.3 - referred to urologist

User
Posted 05 Jan 2019 at 10:03

Okay, brief, appearance because I cannot NOT reply to someone who is offering "best wishes" despite all the serious s*** you have been/are going through. Dunniz - one word, "respect". Sounds clichéd, but it doesn't even get close to how I'd sum up what I feel for individuals like yourself. 

I remember Luther, on here, one day saying that all of this would eventually make me into a better person; I'll let people know if that day ever comes.

Thanks to everyone,

H

 

 

User
Posted 05 Jan 2019 at 10:38

Haig, I really don't think this is a good place for you to be. It's just keeping your fears alive 

User
Posted 05 Jan 2019 at 11:09

I also think this is not the site for you. You may be better served with a site for people with anxiety disorders. Of course if you still persist with the ideation that you have cancer you may wish to consider giving up your fags as you are probably more likely now to get lung cancer or one of the many illnesses caused by that. My cousin is about to undergo vascular surgery due to his smoking   and could lose a leg.

There is literally hundreds/ thousands of diseases that can befall us so why are you fixating on a disease you do not have. God help you if/when you do get one to worry about. As others have said you need to see a mental health professional to deal with your problems. We are not  psychologists on this site.

Best wishes for the future anyway as you obviously do have problems  although they are not medical.

Edited by member 05 Jan 2019 at 11:15  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 05 Jan 2019 at 12:59

He is a school teacher, and via private message I asked him: “How do you get a point across to a particularly thick and unreceptive pupil?”

I told him to keep taking the tablets and seek assistance for his psychological issues that were apparently triggered by a potential PCa diagnosis, yet still remain despite his all-clear.

I wish Haig all the best, and hope he gets himself sorted soonest.

Cheers, John.

Edited by member 05 Jan 2019 at 14:34  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 05 Jan 2019 at 20:24

I probably have to agree, but I miss the people and I miss posting. Love to all.

H

User
Posted 06 Jan 2019 at 09:56
Haig

It is a counsellors job to listen to you and help you deal with your negative thoughts. I would strongly suggest you see one as soon as you can because it is your thoughts that are causing you issues not a disease you do not have. They will be able to help. It is what they are trained for. Don’t forget that others are affected by your situation and you will help them as as yourself if you seek help.

PP

User
Posted 14 Jan 2019 at 14:31

Hi Haig - I was in the same position 3 months ago and, in fact, in the same position now! I have a bunch of urinary symptoms with no issues at night and my mind is torturing me far worse than my body. mpMRI for me was PI RADS 3 and my PSA 0.7. I had another mpMRI last week and get the results Friday as the Urologist wanted to be thorough and because I have a 'firm' prostate on DRE and Prostatitis symptoms.

When I saw him first after the MRI and a CT scan of my abdomen he told me if it was his prostate he wouldn't biopsy. I suspect this week I will find I will need a biopsy as the symptoms have not changed at all.

I know where your mind is racing to - I have done the same a lot! Missed diagnosis, low PSA means nothing, MRI's missing things, CT scan not reviewed properly etc...and I have been treated for stress too.

Your results are great, but of course there is always the 'what if'. I have decided to do my very very best to ignore the what if voice in my head and try to just carry on. With urinary symptoms I am constantly reminded during the waking hours but keeping busy really helps.

I have no idea what is in store for me yet, but wanted to add another voice to 'you are not alone' crowd with this. The tests, waiting, diagnosing, then 'equivocal' results, then waiting, more tests etc...it takes its toll. Try not to be too hard on yourself and also consider that you are suffering a kind of PTSD which is why you may continue to doubt the diagnosis. You are re-living some of the painful thoughts again and again...it is a vicious cycle.

Many have said it, try to move on, and sadly (I am 51) as we age we are more prone to nastiness in all its forms, but a good friend of mine suffering from Lymphoma tells me to take one step at a time, not to try and predict or put odds on survival! Learning to accept uncertainty and even to accept the entirely natural event of one's own demise is something we humans have made a pigs ear of in the last 100 years!

Take care now,

Mark

User
Posted 14 Jan 2019 at 16:47

Hello Mark,

Thanks for your post. It resonates loudly my end. I have stayed off the forum for a while now because people had become understandably tired of me. They could also see my mental demise and to be frank, I wasn't doing anyone any good (& I include myself in this) by posting on here, particularly after my "all clear".

But yes, the doubts remain. I have now been told that I don't need a PSA re-test for another year, but that I can have one at any time 3 months after biopsy (I had MPMRI then targeted TRUS 20th Dec). I am better mentally, but I feel that I cannot find any proper peace of mind and the anxiety flares up at various points. I too have the urinary issues persisting (some days needing to go a lot or "fullness"/other days normal), although again, I often feel that these are fuelled by anxiety - chronic or acute. Never any issues at night. My biopsy, showed inflammation, either minor or moderate etc. which the urologist said could explain my "water works" issues and the elevated PSA of 5.9 due to "some element of prostatitis". Hardly the most convincing diagnosis, but I am clearly grateful that it was not PCa. The thing is, I don't get pain from my apparent "prostatitis" apart from a bit of burning sensation after peeing. I have read that prostatitis tends to have pain in pelvic etc.

As people know on here, I self-diagnose and read way too much & it has done nothing but damage to my mental make-up. 

So, here I am, best keeping off this forum (which I will do) and doing my best to get better.

Haig

 

 

 

 

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User
Posted 14 Jan 2019 at 17:10
Howard,

Nice to see you back here again with your imagined illness. You are always welcome.

Most men here would love to be in your position, free of cancer, but with what I call ‘a bit of trouble down below’.

Have you seen a doctor about your hypochondria yet?

Best wishes, as ever, and kind regards.

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 14 Jan 2019 at 17:49
Post as much as you like Haig!! It’s a free speech forum , and it’s your own thread , and if people get fed up then they can just stop reading can’t they.

Best wishes

User
Posted 14 Jan 2019 at 18:28

Chris & John,

Hello again. Chris, I feel that I have very much "outstayed my welcome" on the forum and I get that. I have been given an "all clear" and that, in many ways, should signal a "clear off" on my part. I hope to move on mentally, and in certain ways I have, but I still do not understand why people (& I include family) will not entertain the possibility of a false negative. Anyway, I will stop my postings (right now, it is better for me mentally to keep away) and only really came on to acknowledge your replies; both of you have always been a major support in your different ways. I hope to one day help out in a tangible way myself - I am hoping to set up something in the future to raise money for Pca by doing something whacky that parents can sponsor. Right now though, I still have that "what if" voice Mark talked of periodically gnawing away and at certain moments just think that the "all clear" was nothing other than a 'stab in the dark diagnosis'.

John, no, I am yet to see the GP, although as I say, I am in a better mental state in the main, although it may not appear so reading this!

Best wishes to all of you and hey, West Ham beat Arsenal on Saturday, so I have to allow myself some joy!

Haig

Edited by member 14 Jan 2019 at 20:03  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 15 Jan 2019 at 17:26

Hi Chris. I am not making a comeback, or indeed having my obligatory wail, but just wondered about the blood in semen time span? It's been 3 & a half weeks since biopsy and has 'evolved' from darkish ketchup red to Worcester sauce brown. Any idea when things might get back to the correct colour palette?

Hope you are okay and that '19 treats you well. 

H

User
Posted 15 Jan 2019 at 17:59
Haig

Once its gone brown the more you get rid of the quicker it will clear. Just keep on getting rid.

Cheers

Bill

User
Posted 15 Jan 2019 at 18:13

Thanks Bill. Much appreciated.

H

User
Posted 15 Jan 2019 at 18:25

Thanks guys that's helped, HB had  go at "clearing the pipes" 5 days post biopsy, expected a rose tint but got ketchup red!!! 7 days post biopsy now rust red!

User
Posted 16 Jan 2019 at 09:57
Brown is old blood and nothing to worry about.

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 16 Jan 2019 at 11:04

Thanks John, as always.

H

User
Posted 21 Jan 2019 at 19:15

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Post as much as you like Haig!! It’s a free speech forum , and it’s your own thread , and if people get fed up then they can just stop reading can’t they.
Best wishes

Well said Chris. Ive just read this thread and was quite disaspointed with some of the responses to someone who is clearly very anxious. Others have provided great support which is what it is about. We are not all surrounded by people who want to hear our woes. So sometimes people post on here as a safe outlet. Been there, got the t-shirt. Like you say people can choose to read posts or stop reading if they are not happy.

Bri

User
Posted 21 Jan 2019 at 20:37

Thanks Bri. I appreciate your words, but I think I would have to say that pretty much everyone has been supportive of me on here in their own way. I think I became almost manic with anxiety through waiting for each set of results -  everyone has been through it, but all seem to have handled it better than me. There was nothing anyone could say to reduce my apprehension and stress; I think people were right to lose faith in trying to help me - they had all tried hard enough, despite me not even having a final diagnosis. 

Then I got the news of an "all clear" from my targeted biopsy and yet continued to doubt this result (I still do) - for some, this was too much & I understand why; I get the 'dream result' and yet I continue to question the validity of it, I continue to let stress dominate my life. For some, this was seen as madness on my part. 

I am better now, mentally, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't still doubt my results. I have been advised by uro to have another PSA in a year's time; I reckon he is making a clinically unsound decision in suggesting an entire year. Anyway, I don't have the courage or moral fibre to start this all over again before the year's out, so I'll go with him on this one.

All the best with your own treatment and I am very appreciative of your kind words, Bri. 

Haig

 

 

 

 

User
Posted 23 Jan 2019 at 09:00
Hi Haig

Have you got a counsellor yet?

PP

 
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