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PSA 7.3 - referred to urologist

User
Posted 21 Nov 2018 at 18:23

Hello everyone,

I am 50 years old.

I'm hoping someone might reply to my concerns about PC. A month ago I was having the feeling of 'not completely emptying' and also going more often to the loo - I thought it might be stress because I get stressed easily and kept thinking about it. 

I did the PSA test on Monday (along with urine sample) after seeing GP. I came out at 7.3, I found out today (Wednesday) at the surgery after the receptionist told me that I needed to make a 'non-urgent appointment' with my GP. He had me down for next Monday, but I insisted on seeing him today.

After him telling me of the 7.3 PSA (urine normal) it felt anything but 'non-urgent' to me. He then did a DRE and said that it felt slightly enlarged but smooth.

So, I am now down to see urologist (within 2 weeks) for the MRI and presumably the biopsy. I have aches and pains, but always put it down to stress.

Clearly, I have googled everything and it looks like I have a 33% chance of having PC.

I'm not looking for reassurance, just some help about the next stages etc.

Thank you for listening.

H

 

User
Posted 05 Jan 2019 at 12:59

He is a school teacher, and via private message I asked him: “How do you get a point across to a particularly thick and unreceptive pupil?”

I told him to keep taking the tablets and seek assistance for his psychological issues that were apparently triggered by a potential PCa diagnosis, yet still remain despite his all-clear.

I wish Haig all the best, and hope he gets himself sorted soonest.

Cheers, John.

Edited by member 05 Jan 2019 at 14:34  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 06 Jan 2019 at 09:56
Haig

It is a counsellors job to listen to you and help you deal with your negative thoughts. I would strongly suggest you see one as soon as you can because it is your thoughts that are causing you issues not a disease you do not have. They will be able to help. It is what they are trained for. Don’t forget that others are affected by your situation and you will help them as as yourself if you seek help.

PP

User
Posted 21 Nov 2018 at 22:06
Firstly, prostate cancer, unless it’s advanced, which it assuredly isn’t with a PSA of 7, doesn’t cause aches and pains. That’s just an overactive imagination thinking the worst. You may have PCa (as we call it in these parts), but localised PCa is eminently treatable. Don’t worry - a PCa diagnosis is not a death sentence!

As you say, next will be a visit to a urologist. He or she will do another DRE (they’ll be much better at it than your GP!) and then probably an MRI scan and a biopsy. Don’t stress about the biopsy - believe me, the anticipation is far worse than the event! It’s not pleasant, but it’s roughly the same order of “not pleasant” as, say, having a filling at the dentist. About two weeks after the biopsy you’ll know the result.

I said “don’t worry” earlier, but that’s me looking back on it from the other side of the experience. It is a worrying time, and you’ll be waiting a long time (at LEAST a month, more likely two months) until you’ll know what’s going on one way or the other. All I can really suggest is keep yourself busy and try not to dwell on it. Even if it is PCa, it’s curable. You don’t die from localised prostate cancer, although you may well die with it.

This site has loads of useful information leaflets. Download them and read them. Phone the freephone number and talk to the nurses if you have any medical questions - they’re wonderful people.

You’ve come to the right place to get support. Welcome to the club! We’ve all (well, all of us of the male persuasion at least) been through it and know exactly how stressful a time this is.

All the best,

Chris

User
Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 17:56

Haig,

Whatever the results of an MRI a biopsy should be performed...i would insist on it.

With your present fear of the worst,  it is the only sure way to rule out PCa - and give peace of mind.

Neil.

User
Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:16

Thanks Steve. Good luck to you on the 28th - I really hope you can move on. I wish I could have the mental strength of all on here - staying positive is something I am not able to manage. I have tried. 

User
Posted 22 Dec 2018 at 12:22

Thank you Janet. So pleased for your husband - wonderful news. I guess the PIRAD 4 may have been in the transitional zone rather than the peripheral zone, which can make a difference. Either way who cares for you guys - brill! It helps my mind to know there might still be a smidgen of a chance even with the PIRAD 4 score.

Haig

User
Posted 24 Dec 2018 at 06:05
Haig

90% of things people worry about never happen.

Enjoy your Christmas with your family and wait for your diagnosis as you can do bugger all till it arrives.

Stay strong fella, I've got Chemo session 5 this morning so had a great early Christmas Day with the family yesterday, they did me proud.

User
Posted 24 Dec 2018 at 06:22
I probably won't help much, but I have got through 5 years of worry following emergency bowel cancer surgery and stressed out before every blood test, scan etc. But it became a little easier as the time passed and now I have my last consultation early Jan. You might find some very sympathetic nurses who will let you know the results of tests as soon as they arrive, and/or ring the lab to get them. My Dr rang me one night about 9.30 to tell me some good news. So these people do exist!

I developed prostate cancer just as the bowel cancer reached the 5 year mark. Intermediate favourable, and start Radiation early Jan. I'm worried of course, but trying to convince myself that worrying is a waste of energy. I've got shingles too, not nice.

All the best for Christmas etc.

User
Posted 31 Dec 2018 at 21:01

Happy New Year to you Chris and to EVERYONE who has helped me through to this point.

H

User
Posted 05 Jan 2019 at 10:38

Haig, I really don't think this is a good place for you to be. It's just keeping your fears alive 

User
Posted 14 Jan 2019 at 17:49
Post as much as you like Haig!! It’s a free speech forum , and it’s your own thread , and if people get fed up then they can just stop reading can’t they.

Best wishes

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

User
Posted 21 Nov 2018 at 22:13
With a PSA of 7.3 and an enlarged prostate further investigation is warranted.

The next stage should be an MRI scan. If it shows suspicious areas then a biopsy would be the next step.

Hopefully a template biopsy rather than a TRUS biopsy as it can target the suspicious areas.

It isn’t an absolute certainty that you have prostate cancer as PSA can be raised with BPH (essentially an enlarged benign prostate) or with infection or recent exercise/sexual activity.

Only the biopsy can confirm one way or the other.

I would hope for the best but prepare for the worst until you know definitely.

Hopefully the scan and biopsy will be organised quickly so that you get an answer to what is going on.

It may be worth downloading the toolkit on this site to see what could happen next.

Best wishes,

Ian

Ido4

User
Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 00:19

The ‘Toolkit’ referred to above is a thick information folder covering every aspect of this disease, and although I spend all day on this IPad, I prefer to have a tangible paper copy to hand rather than a PDF download.

It’s free from this charity, so order a copy and you’ll get it in the post within a couple of days. Hopefully you won’t need to look too deeply into it!

Look up Benign Prostate Hyperplasia (BPH) and cross your fingers, as that can cause symptoms similar to your own.

Best of luck.

Cheers, John.

Edited by member 22 Nov 2018 at 00:26  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 07:26

Hi Haig.

I was first tested Aug 2017 and had a PSA of 5.7. I was yhen lost on the system and had blood test again this year in September and my PSA had rIsen to 7.6 I then went through the system and had DRE, MRI and Biopsy and was finally diagnosed with PC 13 th November I have an appointment with my MCMillan nurse today to let her know which treatment I wish to go with.

Basically what I am saying is don’t worry too much about the time scale as it sounds like as with me they have caught you early.

Edited by member 22 Nov 2018 at 09:01  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 13:12

Hi again Haig.

unless you are planning to get run over on the way to your next appointment I don’t think you will be leaving anyone for a while yet.

i know it is difficult at the moment not know but try not to look at to much on the net about the subject. Best thing is just to read the information on this site as it is probably the most accurate availabl, also read some of the posts on the forum of what other men have been though it has certainly helped me in the last couple of weeks when I have been trying to decide on which treatment I am going with.

as I said in my previous post it looks like they have caught you in the early stages and as others have said it is a very slow growing C. 

I have decided to go down the HT/RT route and have taken my first Hormone tablet today and will be having Radio Therapy in about 3 to 4 months, I have a holiday booked the beginning of April and have been told that if necessary the Radio therapy can be postponed until our return.

i am telling you this to give you an idea of time scale so as to try to stem your worry about having to wait for your appointmen.

 

Hope this helps 

Bob

User
Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 16:49
I have said here before that I have been completely chilled about my cancer diagnosis and subsequent surgery and have had no psychological trauma regarding it whatsoever. But then maybe I have and that’s why I keep posting here 😂.

Obviously bad news affects everyone in different ways.

I have been an avid Googler over the past year, and I learned that the cancer I ‘had’, potentially to return someday, is unlikely to be fatal. One oncologist told me I am cured (silly sod) and another said I won’t die of it.

Morbidity really depends on the staging, and in my case the future looks bright.

Pancreatic, liver and lung cancers are in a different league, as someone here today made the analogy, and are in the European Champions League, whereas mine is languishing down in Division 3, like Coventry City itself!

Best of luck.

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 17:01
I’m with John and completely ok with my diagnosis and prognosis

Haig sit down with your wife and son if he is old enough and talk it through with them do not bottle it all up to yourself.

There is always someone here to help including wives of sufferers.

Bob

User
Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 17:25
Haig, I know exactly what you're going through. When I was waiting for test results, and even worse when I was diagnosed, I went through some very dark days indeed (as people here can attest!). My advice would be to make an appointment with your GP and get some medication to help you cope with it - it really does help. My GP put me on a drug called Sertraline, which helped me tremendously.

You'll get through it. Everybody does. That may seem difficult to believe right now, but one day in a few months time (assuming the diagnosis is PCa, which obviously it may not be!) you'll wake up in the morning and think "I've got prostate cancer. OK. Now let's get on with life". Localised prostate cancer is curable. It's vanishingly unlikely to kill you. It takes a long time for that to sink it, "cancer" being such a scary word, but it does. I was diagnosed back in May, and started hormone treatment in August with radiotherapy due next February. I'm enjoying life again, and cancer is just a normal part of that life now.

Chin up!

Chris

User
Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 09:47

Chris

i admire your stoical approach but from my perspective I've dealt with the Big C by compartmentalising my life into two parts, Life 1 and Life 2. Life 2 is so much different and 3 months after diagnosis its on my mind(obsessively) all the time. Interests i enjoyed in life 1 have fallen by the wayside as I try and deal with the treatment and the changes it has brought. eg I've no idea who my local football team are playing tomorrow and i don't really care, in Life 1 I had the fixtures mapped out. My daily 4 mile walks have stopped, can't energise myself to start walking again.
Just hope a few months down the road I can fully accept this and start enjoying life 2 like i used to enjoy life 1.
What I'm determined to do is to stay strong for my wife and family, who I guiltily feel are the victims in this diagnosis, I'm the poor sap who has to deal with it.

take care guys

John

Edited by member 23 Nov 2018 at 09:48  | Reason: new

User
Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 10:52

Oh, I'm OK now, John, but it took me a hell of a long time to come to terms with it. I had a three-month wait between diagnosis and the start of treatment, and for a while every test I had seemed to find something new and awful. The MRI scan for the PCa found an (unrelated) kidney tumour and an aneurysm in the artery leading to my spleen which could have burst at any time and killed me. At one time it was a case of "Why me?" and feeling very sorry for myself indeed! But you get through it. Aneurysm now fixed. Kidney surgically removed. Prostate cancer being sorted. Taking it one day at a time is all you can do, and believe me, no matter how bleak things get (and they got very bleak indeed for me!), you find a way to cope. It's not as if you have any choice . There is light at the end of the tunnel, no matter how hard that may be to believe at the moment. Just take things one day at a time.

Chris

 

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User
Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 12:47

Haig,

Feeling resigned to the fact that PCa was a possible, or even an inevitable outcome, was my exact outlook. 'What will be will be.'

Initially, after much internet searching, i was well informed but none the wiser. This forum however, and the kind souls that post their own experiences, has been invaluable. Accepting the possibility has helped in dealing with the reality.

It's not easy, we've all been there, and it does take time to before all the necessary tests are done. Continue to be proactive and as positive as you can possibly be at this time.

I will just reiterate what others have said...early stage PCa can be cured and/or managed. Hopefully, your raised PSA is due to other factors and i will keep my fingers crossed for you.

All the best,

Neil.

 

User
Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 14:07

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Today, I just feel numbed by it all. 

H: I’m very sorry to hear that.

Have you got a urology appointment date yet?

The ideal sequence if anything untoward is found apart from your urine retention, should be, of course at the behest of your consultant:

1. mp MRI scan at 3 Tesla resolution, if possible, then if suspicions are raised:

2. Template targeted biopsy under some kind of anaesthetic (avoid TRUS). If biopsy positive then:

3. Treatment plan discussed with your Multi-Disciplinary Team, with “curative intent”.

4. Surgery or treatment with the aim of being cancer-free in 2019. That’s if you even have it.......

I hope you ordered the information Toolkit folder as that explains everything more eloquently than I can.

Best of luck as ever.

Cheers, John.

 

User
Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 14:55

Haig,

Call one of the specialist nurses via this website. The number is at the top of the page.

If at all possible have a change of scenery...a weekend away with loved one's. Your wife will be feeling your anxiety too, while also dealing with her own.

At this stage your fears are palpable and understandable. However, with your symptoms and possibly having an enlarged prostrate, it is entirely feasible that your PSA is raised for those reasons.

Wish i could do more to help. Take care.

Neil.

 

 

User
Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 15:55
Haig, from what you have reported, PCa seems very unlikely and I wouldn't think a biopsy at all likely. I think you may have classic benign prostatic hyperphasia and will be given some pills to shrink the prostate and restore normal urination. I would recommend taking some advice about your anxiety, though. Not that I'm recommending pills for that! Just restore some balance to your thinking.

AC

User
Posted 24 Nov 2018 at 09:24

Good morning everyone. I hope that all of you are well and although I do not know any of you personally, I mean this with complete sincerity. I guess many of you are finding me a little tiresome by now. Don't worry, I feel the same about myself, so don't take it to heart. I am not as bad as I was after finding out about my 7.3 PSA and slightly enlarged prostate, which was 'smooth' (was that intended to make me feel any better about the whole bloody thing?). I hope to get to see the urologist next week rather than this waiting game, which I struggle with. I still feel a complete imposter amongst you and should really have only begun to talk after knowing the result of further investigations. In terms of the symptoms, it seems that BPH and PCa are pretty similar, but both talk of needing the loo at night and I don't have this. I guess it is all so different for all of us etc.

Anyway, I'm going to leave you all alone until after the urologist tells me what I have. I promise not to bother you. Until then, keep safe all of you and without you, my last 4 days would have been yet harder to negotiate.

Haig

User
Posted 24 Nov 2018 at 09:55
"Smooth" is good, Haig. A prostate with tumours feels "knobbly". So yes, that should make you feel good!

Cheers,

Chris

User
Posted 24 Nov 2018 at 10:43

Haig.

Dont worry about bothering people that is what this forum is all about.

Better to put all your worries in print than to bottle them all up inside. I have started to use this site as part of my therapy as I find talking about what I have is my way of coping with it. I know that some of my friends are sick to death of me talking about it but I don’t care as it is helping me.

hang on in there and what ever the result next week me back and talk it over.

 

Bob

User
Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 09:59
You’re not bothering us at all, and I hope you will shortly bugger off and not need to ‘bother’ us ever again!

Best of luck on the 4th🤞

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:48

Hey Haig... 

It's a bugger waiting for tests and results ....we've all been there! 

Try to put your teaching skills into practice and focus on the facts you have before you ..... 

Until you have the results of any tests / biopsies etc you won't know what your situation is... 

I know it's bloody stressful and we all deal with it in different ways ....in your case it may well be not Pca at all! 

Life is full of obstacles and hurdles to overcome....you must know that... 

Maybe a visit to your GP and explain your anxiety will help?  ....he'll only dish out a few pills though .. if they help meantime that's fine innit! 

If it helps you keep on posting your concerns  here..... sometimes the people on this site give more support than a GP would when it comes dealing with this stuff  

Best Wishes 
Luther 



Edited by member 25 Nov 2018 at 18:57  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:53
Hi Haig.

Perhaps I am one of the lucky ones as since my first test right up to my diagnosis I have had no feeling of fear and foreboding so I do not really know what you are going through.

One thing that that does not seem to have been suggested is to check if you have a support group in your area, if so it may be that they have a meeting between now and your appointment so you would be able to go along a talk face to face with like minded men.

Bob

User
Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 19:23

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi Bob,

This has become my support group. I don't want to see another soul about it. If I get out of this s..., then this forum will have helped more than any robotic, insensitive GP could ever have done. 

 

Haig.

i am not talking about GP’s. All around this Country there are groups of trained cancer support where people like myself and you meet as a group and are able to either talk one to one or in a group, to gove you an example in Chely we have one called Maggie’s. Google it, I know you will anyway, just to see what support is available either that or contact McMillan. 

Do something because you really need support from professionals as well as all the good meaning people on this site.

 

Bob

User
Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 19:37

Thanks Luther - I probably sounded insensitive about the age thing - of course it isn't easier for any of you. Sorry.

User
Posted 26 Nov 2018 at 17:59
The main reason that most men should have biopsy and MRI rather than allowing the result of one to rule out the other is that each test is fallible. There are prostate cancers that don't show on a scan, even if the tumour is substantial.

My husband was fortunate that he had a positive biopsy first as the subsequent scan was clear, leading the doctors to believe they were dealing with a very small T1. When they operated they found that it was in every segment of his prostate and had spread to his bladder. Since his PSA was only 3.1, if he had had the scan first he may have decided not to go ahead with the biopsy and might not be here now.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 28 Nov 2018 at 16:33
The specialist nurses are fantastic. They help to put things into some sort of perspective.

Glad you’ve made the call.

Ian

Ido4

User
Posted 28 Nov 2018 at 16:41

I couldn’t agree more! They stopped me getting ahead of myself last week and calmed me down, when I was having a wobble.

Hope you’re ok Haig? X

User
Posted 28 Nov 2018 at 17:18

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi all. I rang the specialist nurse today. They are such lovely people. It helped to talk to someone. Thanks for steering me their way. 

Good. I hope you take note of what they told you and put all thought of localised PCa being a "death sentence" out of your head!

Chris

 

User
Posted 28 Nov 2018 at 17:42
Glad to see you have listened to everyone’s advice and spoken to a professional.

Hang on in there

Bob

User
Posted 28 Nov 2018 at 18:44

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Oh, & my dog had his anal glands emptied for the 3rd time in a month and needs them "flushed". It's all ass round my joint, I tell you.



...That must be a relief for yer dog........and you think you got problems!!   

Cheers 
Luther 






User
Posted 01 Dec 2018 at 20:10
I’ve been prescribed Diazepam for years now but only take maybe two 5mg per week in total. They do work for me if I wake up in the morning feeling dread and anxiety. I’m allowed 10 mg per day but I do have bipolar issues also. I just don’t want to get addicted and am scared to take each day. Sadly I drink far more than is healthy and wish I could stop that tbh but it ain’t happening and I love my red wine. And Diazepam and booze REALLY don’t mix at all. Like any drug the effects will lessen so try not to use it each day !!

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

User
Posted 04 Dec 2018 at 16:04
H,

I had to laugh reading your note - I know I shouldn’t - that you are now more wound up than ever. Yes, prostate stimulation including orgasm does increase PSA temporarily.

Do take the positive from him, that you may be 80% in the clear, then you’ll have something like green light laser therapy for BPH to ‘look forward to’😟.

Roll on the mpMRI, keep taking the tablets, and keep calm and carry on.

Fingers crossed for you.

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 22 Dec 2018 at 12:19

Hi Haig

I said the other day that my husband was awaiting biopsy results. They are now in and he does not have cancer. His PSA was 30 and he was PIRADS 4. We were entirely ready for the worst, but were hoping for contained, we got a nice surprise. 

You won't know until you know. 

My very best to you and hope you can settle a bit while you wait.

Kindest regards 

Janet

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User
Posted 23 Dec 2018 at 07:13

Thanks John. 

H

User
Posted 24 Dec 2018 at 04:26
I recently saw a sign on Facebook or somewhere on a high bridge, I think in America.

It said: “Suicide may relieve your pain, but then passes it on to others”.

A neighbour opposite me took his own life, leaving a widow and three young lads. Very sad. But then he was a Coventry City supporter, so probably had more excuse than a raised PSA test result!😉

Perhaps you should take up drinking for the festive period, only to go back on the wagon by way of a New Year’s resolution. You’ll look bloody silly if you get the all clear or a G3+3=6 or G3+4=7 result.

Best Christmas wishes to you and the family.

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 24 Dec 2018 at 07:22

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

I developed prostate cancer just as the bowel cancer reached the 5 year mark. Intermediate favourable, and start Radiation early Jan. I'm worried of course, but trying to convince myself that worrying is a waste of energy. I've got shingles too, not nice.
All the best for Christmas etc.

Some people get greedy for diseases and are a drain on the NHS! 😉

Wondering if I should pay £100-odd for a shingles inoculation. My mate had it quite bad in his early forties. Herpes zoster virus - cold sore, genital herpes, human papilloma virus (penile and cervical cancer) are all variants. Vaccinate against the b******!

Enjoy your Christmas and best of luck for the New Year!

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 25 Dec 2018 at 18:07

Hello. I'm back - mum was lovely, but needed to be with wife and son. A belated Merry Xmas to you all.

Haig

 

User
Posted 26 Dec 2018 at 22:08

H,

Did you get a prognostication reading from Gypsy Rose Lee in Blackpool then?

Why you think you have a life expectancy of five years is beyond me.

Have you also become a life assurance actuary on the internet, as you have obviously qualified to consultant level in urology and oncology via Google correspondence courses?

You clearly have some psychological issues over and above a raised PSA test reading and positive MRI scan, and the sooner they are addressed the better.

Roll on the 8th January...

Best of luck and I hope you have a Happy New Year.

Cheers, John.

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User
Posted 28 Dec 2018 at 15:15

Chris, your words, story and fortitude are simply humbling. I have no words. I wish you peace in the New Year and you, like so many on here have actually restored my faith in humanity. Not that I have ever properly questioned humanity, per se, but when I look around at the world and compare it to the people here, there is a reality check on what it's all about. This all sounds pretty corny, trite even, but I don't give a toss. I believe that courage cannot be learnt, but here I have learnt of it from others and that in itself has given me a strength of sorts.

Bless you.

H

User
Posted 28 Dec 2018 at 15:57
Be close with your wife ,, your best friend. You need a best friend and can be closer than ever. Talk talk talk about it all and grow stronger together. My wife and I lay in bed weeping for weeks after diagnosis, yet if my damn cancer hadn’t spread we would be in a great place now recovery wise. Post all you want — plenty of friends here !

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

User
Posted 28 Dec 2018 at 17:23
Chris J.

Thanks for sharing your storey with Haig I think the rest of us we beginning to despair and were unable to come up with anything else to help him, hopefully a kindred spirit will.

Bob

User
Posted 28 Dec 2018 at 21:36

Thank you Clare. I must applaud your resolve in reading my whole thread - I certainly do not have the courage to ever read it. I do know that the people on here have had to put up with me and have felt exasperated by my pessimism and morbid posts; I empathise with their sentiments and yet they have all continued to help in their very different ways. I have turned a corner - Chris' post was a catalyst and just capped the other support I have had here. I won't deny that my latest medication (of which I do not know its name - my wife has it somewhere under lock and key), has helped. Probably the biggest help was a long chat I had with my son (he is 20) as we wandered through some pretty remote woodland for a couple of hours with our (knackered!) dog.

Yes, I have to face this for my dear wife, but my son is someone that I cannot leave behind. Not now.

H

 

 

User
Posted 29 Dec 2018 at 13:27
People generally do feel an awful lot better from a mental perspective once they get their diagnosis, whether it's good or bad. Uncertainty is worse in many ways than bad news.

Chris

User
Posted 02 Jan 2019 at 21:26

Thanks Claret. I don't think you know how much of a pain I have been on this forum of amazing humans though. Yes, great news, but having prepared myself so definitively for bad news, I cannot process what I have heard today. To now harp on about my fears of false negatives probably means people would want to reach through their laptops and punch me squarely on the nose.

I had somehow found myself after a horrendous 5 weeks of waiting for PSA and MRI results (as all surely have to varying degrees) in a better state of mind (largely chemically induced). I cannot rationalise this, but I almost feel like I am now unable to see that urologist again for a follow-up PSA. Right now, I want to call it quits and just take my chances and never see him or another PSA/Biopsy needles again. Counter-intuitive and clinically poor decision, I know.

H

 

 

User
Posted 02 Jan 2019 at 21:37

Wow, amazing results! honestly fantastic, hope you are celebrating

love Devonmaid

User
Posted 03 Jan 2019 at 10:16

Humbled, as always. I wish you nothing but peace and tranquility, with a dose of frivolity, for '19.

H

User
Posted 03 Jan 2019 at 17:58
H.

You stay on here so I have someone to whinge to when I fell s**t from any side effects.

Bob

User
Posted 04 Jan 2019 at 20:03

Are your family ok with this state of affairs or are you driving them round the bend,? I do feel for them.

User
Posted 04 Jan 2019 at 21:52
Oh, for Heaven’s sake, Haig, I don’t mean to be rude, but this is getting quite frankly ridiculous. You’ve been given the all-clear. What more do you want? You do not have cancer, so stop wasting your life worrying about a non-existent problem and get on with living. Do you see those of us who, unlike you, actually have cancer, moaning about it? You don’t, do you? We get on with the twin goals of getting treated and enjoying life.

Let me tell you, my friend: being diagnosed with cancer (two different sorts of cancer in my case) makes you realise, with a clarity that nothing else can, just how precious life is. Far too precious to sit around complaining about stuff you have no control over.

So for God’s sake stop bloody stressing about something that you don’t have, count yourself fortunate that, unlike us, you don’t have it, and starting living your life again.

Chris

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Posted 05 Jan 2019 at 11:09

I also think this is not the site for you. You may be better served with a site for people with anxiety disorders. Of course if you still persist with the ideation that you have cancer you may wish to consider giving up your fags as you are probably more likely now to get lung cancer or one of the many illnesses caused by that. My cousin is about to undergo vascular surgery due to his smoking   and could lose a leg.

There is literally hundreds/ thousands of diseases that can befall us so why are you fixating on a disease you do not have. God help you if/when you do get one to worry about. As others have said you need to see a mental health professional to deal with your problems. We are not  psychologists on this site.

Best wishes for the future anyway as you obviously do have problems  although they are not medical.

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Posted 16 Jan 2019 at 09:57
Brown is old blood and nothing to worry about.

Cheers, John.

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Posted 21 Nov 2018 at 22:06
Firstly, prostate cancer, unless it’s advanced, which it assuredly isn’t with a PSA of 7, doesn’t cause aches and pains. That’s just an overactive imagination thinking the worst. You may have PCa (as we call it in these parts), but localised PCa is eminently treatable. Don’t worry - a PCa diagnosis is not a death sentence!

As you say, next will be a visit to a urologist. He or she will do another DRE (they’ll be much better at it than your GP!) and then probably an MRI scan and a biopsy. Don’t stress about the biopsy - believe me, the anticipation is far worse than the event! It’s not pleasant, but it’s roughly the same order of “not pleasant” as, say, having a filling at the dentist. About two weeks after the biopsy you’ll know the result.

I said “don’t worry” earlier, but that’s me looking back on it from the other side of the experience. It is a worrying time, and you’ll be waiting a long time (at LEAST a month, more likely two months) until you’ll know what’s going on one way or the other. All I can really suggest is keep yourself busy and try not to dwell on it. Even if it is PCa, it’s curable. You don’t die from localised prostate cancer, although you may well die with it.

This site has loads of useful information leaflets. Download them and read them. Phone the freephone number and talk to the nurses if you have any medical questions - they’re wonderful people.

You’ve come to the right place to get support. Welcome to the club! We’ve all (well, all of us of the male persuasion at least) been through it and know exactly how stressful a time this is.

All the best,

Chris

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Posted 21 Nov 2018 at 22:13
With a PSA of 7.3 and an enlarged prostate further investigation is warranted.

The next stage should be an MRI scan. If it shows suspicious areas then a biopsy would be the next step.

Hopefully a template biopsy rather than a TRUS biopsy as it can target the suspicious areas.

It isn’t an absolute certainty that you have prostate cancer as PSA can be raised with BPH (essentially an enlarged benign prostate) or with infection or recent exercise/sexual activity.

Only the biopsy can confirm one way or the other.

I would hope for the best but prepare for the worst until you know definitely.

Hopefully the scan and biopsy will be organised quickly so that you get an answer to what is going on.

It may be worth downloading the toolkit on this site to see what could happen next.

Best wishes,

Ian

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 00:19

The ‘Toolkit’ referred to above is a thick information folder covering every aspect of this disease, and although I spend all day on this IPad, I prefer to have a tangible paper copy to hand rather than a PDF download.

It’s free from this charity, so order a copy and you’ll get it in the post within a couple of days. Hopefully you won’t need to look too deeply into it!

Look up Benign Prostate Hyperplasia (BPH) and cross your fingers, as that can cause symptoms similar to your own.

Best of luck.

Cheers, John.

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 07:26

Hi Haig.

I was first tested Aug 2017 and had a PSA of 5.7. I was yhen lost on the system and had blood test again this year in September and my PSA had rIsen to 7.6 I then went through the system and had DRE, MRI and Biopsy and was finally diagnosed with PC 13 th November I have an appointment with my MCMillan nurse today to let her know which treatment I wish to go with.

Basically what I am saying is don’t worry too much about the time scale as it sounds like as with me they have caught you early.

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 10:11

Dear Chris,

You are so kind in replying and it has helped me a lot. I am still wrecked with worry and to be honest the GP wasn't exactly reassuring, which I guess they aren't always supposed to be. If he'd have said the things you have said, I would be feeling a little better about it all. 

Again, I cannot thank you enough for your time.

 

Haig

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 10:12

Thank you very much for your kind words. It is so good to speak with people who have been through this and not colleagues just telling me to be positive, which I am not able to be.

 

Haig

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 10:14

Thank you for taking the time to reply to me & I am sorry that you too have been through this. I am scared, not for me, but for wife and son. I feel that it is too early for me to leave them right now. 

Thank you so much,

Haig

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 10:21

Thank you, Ian. I am a real whimp, which doesn't help. I hope it isn't PCa but if it is, I feel a bit more 'prepared' to face it with everyone's kind words.

Haig

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 13:01

Thank you Mr Angry.

I am coming back to the thread between teaching lessons at school; however, I find that all of a sudden I will well-up (not in front of the kids) and feel emotional and so sorry for myself. I think this is what I meant by being a wimp. I can't help thinking of turning up at the GP's surgery and finding out that my results were normal and how thankful I would have been. It just wasn't to be though and I wish I could cope better at this point.

 

Haig

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 13:12

Hi again Haig.

unless you are planning to get run over on the way to your next appointment I don’t think you will be leaving anyone for a while yet.

i know it is difficult at the moment not know but try not to look at to much on the net about the subject. Best thing is just to read the information on this site as it is probably the most accurate availabl, also read some of the posts on the forum of what other men have been though it has certainly helped me in the last couple of weeks when I have been trying to decide on which treatment I am going with.

as I said in my previous post it looks like they have caught you in the early stages and as others have said it is a very slow growing C. 

I have decided to go down the HT/RT route and have taken my first Hormone tablet today and will be having Radio Therapy in about 3 to 4 months, I have a holiday booked the beginning of April and have been told that if necessary the Radio therapy can be postponed until our return.

i am telling you this to give you an idea of time scale so as to try to stem your worry about having to wait for your appointmen.

 

Hope this helps 

Bob

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 15:55

Hello again Bob,

You are right - I need to leave the net alone and to be honest there isn't probably a web page that I haven't visited on the subject. I am now sticking to this forum, because it is basically the only thing that has properly helped. I guess I have two chances. The first that it might not be PCa and the second that it is caught early. it's not the procedures that frighten me, although I wouldn't put them on my Christmas list, it's the outcome of it having spread so far.

I am in a better place thanks to all these messages of fact and support, but I am still so pessimistic about it all. Yesterday, for the first time ever I considered taking my own life, as I couldn't see anything but darkness. The thought didn't last long but it was there.

 

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 16:49
I have said here before that I have been completely chilled about my cancer diagnosis and subsequent surgery and have had no psychological trauma regarding it whatsoever. But then maybe I have and that’s why I keep posting here 😂.

Obviously bad news affects everyone in different ways.

I have been an avid Googler over the past year, and I learned that the cancer I ‘had’, potentially to return someday, is unlikely to be fatal. One oncologist told me I am cured (silly sod) and another said I won’t die of it.

Morbidity really depends on the staging, and in my case the future looks bright.

Pancreatic, liver and lung cancers are in a different league, as someone here today made the analogy, and are in the European Champions League, whereas mine is languishing down in Division 3, like Coventry City itself!

Best of luck.

Cheers, John.

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 17:01
I’m with John and completely ok with my diagnosis and prognosis

Haig sit down with your wife and son if he is old enough and talk it through with them do not bottle it all up to yourself.

There is always someone here to help including wives of sufferers.

Bob

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 17:25
Haig, I know exactly what you're going through. When I was waiting for test results, and even worse when I was diagnosed, I went through some very dark days indeed (as people here can attest!). My advice would be to make an appointment with your GP and get some medication to help you cope with it - it really does help. My GP put me on a drug called Sertraline, which helped me tremendously.

You'll get through it. Everybody does. That may seem difficult to believe right now, but one day in a few months time (assuming the diagnosis is PCa, which obviously it may not be!) you'll wake up in the morning and think "I've got prostate cancer. OK. Now let's get on with life". Localised prostate cancer is curable. It's vanishingly unlikely to kill you. It takes a long time for that to sink it, "cancer" being such a scary word, but it does. I was diagnosed back in May, and started hormone treatment in August with radiotherapy due next February. I'm enjoying life again, and cancer is just a normal part of that life now.

Chin up!

Chris

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Posted 22 Nov 2018 at 17:35

Thanks again, Chris. Yes, I am going to try to see GP tomorrow to get something to calm me a bit. I might also see if I can go private to speed things up? To be honest, if someone could put me to sleep for the next 2 weeks and have the tests done and then wake me up for the results, that would be ideal. It's weird, because I am not hoping for it not to be PCa, as I have already in my mind resigned myself to that, I am just hoping for the localised diagnosis. The inspiration for me has been the way that everyone has almost made it sound banal and I can cope with banal, believe me. 

Haig

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 07:43

Amazon7,

I can see your initial line in email inbox, but can't see the post on the forum. A gremlin perhaps?

Haig

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 09:47

Chris

i admire your stoical approach but from my perspective I've dealt with the Big C by compartmentalising my life into two parts, Life 1 and Life 2. Life 2 is so much different and 3 months after diagnosis its on my mind(obsessively) all the time. Interests i enjoyed in life 1 have fallen by the wayside as I try and deal with the treatment and the changes it has brought. eg I've no idea who my local football team are playing tomorrow and i don't really care, in Life 1 I had the fixtures mapped out. My daily 4 mile walks have stopped, can't energise myself to start walking again.
Just hope a few months down the road I can fully accept this and start enjoying life 2 like i used to enjoy life 1.
What I'm determined to do is to stay strong for my wife and family, who I guiltily feel are the victims in this diagnosis, I'm the poor sap who has to deal with it.

take care guys

John

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 10:52

Oh, I'm OK now, John, but it took me a hell of a long time to come to terms with it. I had a three-month wait between diagnosis and the start of treatment, and for a while every test I had seemed to find something new and awful. The MRI scan for the PCa found an (unrelated) kidney tumour and an aneurysm in the artery leading to my spleen which could have burst at any time and killed me. At one time it was a case of "Why me?" and feeling very sorry for myself indeed! But you get through it. Aneurysm now fixed. Kidney surgically removed. Prostate cancer being sorted. Taking it one day at a time is all you can do, and believe me, no matter how bleak things get (and they got very bleak indeed for me!), you find a way to cope. It's not as if you have any choice . There is light at the end of the tunnel, no matter how hard that may be to believe at the moment. Just take things one day at a time.

Chris

 

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 12:47

Haig,

Feeling resigned to the fact that PCa was a possible, or even an inevitable outcome, was my exact outlook. 'What will be will be.'

Initially, after much internet searching, i was well informed but none the wiser. This forum however, and the kind souls that post their own experiences, has been invaluable. Accepting the possibility has helped in dealing with the reality.

It's not easy, we've all been there, and it does take time to before all the necessary tests are done. Continue to be proactive and as positive as you can possibly be at this time.

I will just reiterate what others have said...early stage PCa can be cured and/or managed. Hopefully, your raised PSA is due to other factors and i will keep my fingers crossed for you.

All the best,

Neil.

 

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 12:56

Thank you, Neil. 

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 13:32

Today, I just feel numbed by it all. 

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 14:07

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Today, I just feel numbed by it all. 

H: I’m very sorry to hear that.

Have you got a urology appointment date yet?

The ideal sequence if anything untoward is found apart from your urine retention, should be, of course at the behest of your consultant:

1. mp MRI scan at 3 Tesla resolution, if possible, then if suspicions are raised:

2. Template targeted biopsy under some kind of anaesthetic (avoid TRUS). If biopsy positive then:

3. Treatment plan discussed with your Multi-Disciplinary Team, with “curative intent”.

4. Surgery or treatment with the aim of being cancer-free in 2019. That’s if you even have it.......

I hope you ordered the information Toolkit folder as that explains everything more eloquently than I can.

Best of luck as ever.

Cheers, John.

 

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 14:55

Haig,

Call one of the specialist nurses via this website. The number is at the top of the page.

If at all possible have a change of scenery...a weekend away with loved one's. Your wife will be feeling your anxiety too, while also dealing with her own.

At this stage your fears are palpable and understandable. However, with your symptoms and possibly having an enlarged prostrate, it is entirely feasible that your PSA is raised for those reasons.

Wish i could do more to help. Take care.

Neil.

 

 

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 15:21

Neil & John,

As usual, replies on here help me rationalise this all a little better. I have no appointment yet - the GP saw me this Wednesday morning at 10am; I guess I need to hang on until sometime this week. The days feel long and I could hear the sound of the groundsman cutting grass in the mild drizzle. I envied him simply because he doesn't have a high PSA.

Haig

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 15:55
Haig, from what you have reported, PCa seems very unlikely and I wouldn't think a biopsy at all likely. I think you may have classic benign prostatic hyperphasia and will be given some pills to shrink the prostate and restore normal urination. I would recommend taking some advice about your anxiety, though. Not that I'm recommending pills for that! Just restore some balance to your thinking.

AC

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Posted 23 Nov 2018 at 17:15

AC,

If you're right, please send me your address and I will post out a bottle of something for Xmas. If you're not, at least it made me feel good for a wee while (no pun intended).

Haig

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Posted 24 Nov 2018 at 09:24

Good morning everyone. I hope that all of you are well and although I do not know any of you personally, I mean this with complete sincerity. I guess many of you are finding me a little tiresome by now. Don't worry, I feel the same about myself, so don't take it to heart. I am not as bad as I was after finding out about my 7.3 PSA and slightly enlarged prostate, which was 'smooth' (was that intended to make me feel any better about the whole bloody thing?). I hope to get to see the urologist next week rather than this waiting game, which I struggle with. I still feel a complete imposter amongst you and should really have only begun to talk after knowing the result of further investigations. In terms of the symptoms, it seems that BPH and PCa are pretty similar, but both talk of needing the loo at night and I don't have this. I guess it is all so different for all of us etc.

Anyway, I'm going to leave you all alone until after the urologist tells me what I have. I promise not to bother you. Until then, keep safe all of you and without you, my last 4 days would have been yet harder to negotiate.

Haig

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Posted 24 Nov 2018 at 09:55
"Smooth" is good, Haig. A prostate with tumours feels "knobbly". So yes, that should make you feel good!

Cheers,

Chris

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Posted 24 Nov 2018 at 10:43

Haig.

Dont worry about bothering people that is what this forum is all about.

Better to put all your worries in print than to bottle them all up inside. I have started to use this site as part of my therapy as I find talking about what I have is my way of coping with it. I know that some of my friends are sick to death of me talking about it but I don’t care as it is helping me.

hang on in there and what ever the result next week me back and talk it over.

 

Bob

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 09:26

Morning all. My appointment is Tuesday 4th of December. Seems an age away, but at least I have a date now. 

All the best,

Haig

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 09:59
You’re not bothering us at all, and I hope you will shortly bugger off and not need to ‘bother’ us ever again!

Best of luck on the 4th🤞

Cheers, John.

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 17:34

I thought to stay away but I'm back, I'm afraid. So sorry. I came across a chap (on this site forum) who was 63 years old, PSA 7 and he was asking about the urologist's procedure regarding MRI & Biopsy. Anyway, he had MRI and biopsy same day, I think. Worryingly for me, after having been calmed by many on here, his MRI came back clear but the biopsy 12 point test showed one slow-growing cancer cell. I think he went for active surveillance.

Anyway, I naively thought I might get the MRI scan done and result back same day, there and then. "You're alright mate, get outta here" sort of result. Wishful thinking, of course. A number of things: a PSA of 7 is slightly lower than mine and cancer found in this chap and then I hear stories of over a week, 10 days wait before you get called back to do the biopsy. I haven't ordered the toolkit suggested because I feel so saturated with gloom that I couldn't face it. Haven't called the nurse number either. Keep googling and coming back to you guys - that's all I do. 

Haig

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 17:56

Haig,

Whatever the results of an MRI a biopsy should be performed...i would insist on it.

With your present fear of the worst,  it is the only sure way to rule out PCa - and give peace of mind.

Neil.

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:08

Thanks Neil & Mr A. You are both gents to spend time replying to me. 

 

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:10

Hi, I know what you are going through and maybe it is easy for me to say this but wait until you see the uro and don't jump to conclusions.

I had a psa of upto 15 at last count, was getting up some nights 9-10 times, prostate was massively enlarged, had biopsy, scans, cystoscopy, meds etc etc finally the uro diagnosed BPH and done a Turp.

I am about 5 weeks post op have good flow no bleeding and I sleep all night, still waiting for histology but I assume that was clear as they have not called me, I go for uro appointment on 28/11.

What I am trying to say is try to look to the positive, it doesn't mean you have pc just because your psa is high, bph will cause that too. I understand only too well the stress you are feeling, but don't count the losses until the race is run, easy for me to say now I am nearly home and dry, but I feel good now and that is important, in a few days maybe that will change when I see the uro, but I am thinking positive.

Try to relax, going to the uro doesn't mean pc it could be BPH.

Good luck.

Steve. 

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:16

Thanks Steve. Good luck to you on the 28th - I really hope you can move on. I wish I could have the mental strength of all on here - staying positive is something I am not able to manage. I have tried. 

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:33

'The days feel long and I could hear the sound of the groundsman cutting grass in the mild drizzle. I envied him simply because he doesn't have a high PSA.'

Nice words Haig,  do you have a tune for it?

When I was first diagnosed I used to wake up in the night which isn't unusual, but then I'd get a fear that something was wrong but I couldn't think what it was. Then I remembered and worried a bit before going back to sleep. That lasted about a week.  The words aren't that good, not sure if a tune will fix it.

Don't worry about posting your fears. People talk about the most personal matters on here.  Some of the ladies know more about your very personal fears and problems than most men.

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:39

Hello Peter. No tune, I'm afraid - just the way I was thinking at the time. Waking up at night suggests that you had moments of sleep - I just lie there with some pretend snoring, so my wife thinks I have knocked off. Then God knows what I do for the next few hours - I need some pills probably, but I don't want to go to my local doctor's surgery right now. If I could hibernate, I would.

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:48

Hey Haig... 

It's a bugger waiting for tests and results ....we've all been there! 

Try to put your teaching skills into practice and focus on the facts you have before you ..... 

Until you have the results of any tests / biopsies etc you won't know what your situation is... 

I know it's bloody stressful and we all deal with it in different ways ....in your case it may well be not Pca at all! 

Life is full of obstacles and hurdles to overcome....you must know that... 

Maybe a visit to your GP and explain your anxiety will help?  ....he'll only dish out a few pills though .. if they help meantime that's fine innit! 

If it helps you keep on posting your concerns  here..... sometimes the people on this site give more support than a GP would when it comes dealing with this stuff  

Best Wishes 
Luther 



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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 18:53
Hi Haig.

Perhaps I am one of the lucky ones as since my first test right up to my diagnosis I have had no feeling of fear and foreboding so I do not really know what you are going through.

One thing that that does not seem to have been suggested is to check if you have a support group in your area, if so it may be that they have a meeting between now and your appointment so you would be able to go along a talk face to face with like minded men.

Bob

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 19:08

Luther, thanks and all you say is right. Maybe I'm being deluded in thinking I might have dealt with this better at 60, rather than 50 - but probably not. If I knew my son was settled (he's at uni and knows nothing of this) & my wife was okay and retired etc, then I think I'd be less of a wimp about it. Both rely on me though and that's because I try to do it all for them both. BPH, PSA, DRE and bloody Gleason - I hate all these new additions to my vocab and wish they would simply FO.

 

All the best, mate.

Haig

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 19:13

Hi Bob,

This has become my support group. I don't want to see another soul about it. If I get out of this s..., then this forum will have helped more than any robotic, insensitive GP could ever have done. 

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 19:23

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi Bob,

This has become my support group. I don't want to see another soul about it. If I get out of this s..., then this forum will have helped more than any robotic, insensitive GP could ever have done. 

 

Haig.

i am not talking about GP’s. All around this Country there are groups of trained cancer support where people like myself and you meet as a group and are able to either talk one to one or in a group, to gove you an example in Chely we have one called Maggie’s. Google it, I know you will anyway, just to see what support is available either that or contact McMillan. 

Do something because you really need support from professionals as well as all the good meaning people on this site.

 

Bob

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 19:34

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Luther, thanks and all you say is right. Maybe I'm being deluded in thinking I might have dealt with this better at 60, rather than 50 - but probably not. If I knew my son was settled (he's at uni and knows nothing of this) & my wife was okay and retired etc, then I think I'd be less of a wimp about it. Both rely on me though and that's because I try to do it all for them both. BPH, PSA, DRE and bloody Gleason - I hate all these new additions to my vocab and wish they would simply FO.

 

All the best, mate.

Haig



No problem Haig,
if it's any consolation...whatever age you are  ie... 50 / 60 etc  it's no easier ...believe me!.. 

You're not being a wimp matey ... keep on talking...it's better to to do that than bottle it all up!

With any luck all those additions to your vocab will be a thing of the past in a week or so 

Good advice from Bobk by the way 

Best Wishes 
Luther 

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 19:37

Thanks Luther - I probably sounded insensitive about the age thing - of course it isn't easier for any of you. Sorry.

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Posted 25 Nov 2018 at 21:05

Goodnight all. Apologies I have been so brusque, morose and zoned about it all; I'll work hard on pretending to lighten-up. Time for some fake snoring.

 

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Posted 26 Nov 2018 at 06:41

Damn. We're on page 2 already. 

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Posted 26 Nov 2018 at 09:03
Haig,

As I think I mentioned in an earlier post, unfortunately you are in for a lot of waiting. It'll take 1-2 weeks to find out the results of the MRI (imaging is done by a radiographer, who is basically a technician trained to operate the machine, and then the result is sent to a radiologist - a doctor - to be interpreted), and similarly around a 2-week wait for biopsy results.

You should still press for a biopsy even if the MRI comes back clear. My MRI was clear but the biopsy found cancer.

Unfortunately that's just the way it is.

Cheers,

Chris

 
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