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User
Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 11:56

My father passed away from Prostate Cancer in 2013.  I am 51 and I have started to get symptoms.  I have had 2 PSA blood tests done and they are both normal.  But, I am now frequently urinating, pain in abdomen, stop / start flow, dull ache and heavy feeling, painful ejaculation, .  I went to the GP and explained the symptoms he gave me 2 weeks of antibiotics and said I had a water infection or epididymitis.  They done nothing.  I went back and he then said it was Prostatis.  He was very flippant with me saying " just because my father had it doesn't mean I will, it is not hereditary".  He gave me a print out of what Prostatis is and said I had to live with it.  I went back again as it was unbearable and he examined me, said I had an enlarged prostate and it was tender.  Another PSA test which was low ( normal) and that is it.  Prostatis, live with it.


This has been since August / Sept...  I am extremely worried as it says on the news recently that PSA does not always pick it up ?  


what do I do next ?

User
Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 12:30
Well, I guess you could always ask for a referral to your local hospital urology department. Has your GP done a digital rectal examination? This would be next on the check-list. If it found something suspicious, then further tests would follow (MRI, biopsy, maybe a bone scan). If it didn't, then you would at least be reassured, even if it meant accepting your GP's diagnosis.
Hermit
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Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 12:33

You don't have to live with prostatitis - ask to be referred to urology. If you can get a referral to UCH, they have an consultant expert in prostatitis there (who I unfortunately can't name here).


When you get there, raise your concerns about PCa. They will take you seriously. Not all PCa causes a rise in PSA. Most GP's know very little about prostate cancer. Most likely, you have benign prostate hyperplasia (BPH) which is inconvenient but not malignant. However, such patients should always be checked for cancer, particularly with your father having had it.


If you are with reach of Chorleywood (M25 J18), come along to The FOPS (prostate support group) and discuss with our consultants there (one of whom is same consultant as above). Prostatitis has come up at the last two meetings. Next meeting will be in March (probably 3rd Wednesday but not yet confirmed).

User
Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 12:52

thank you for replying, What is UCH ?  Unfortunately I am miles away from Chorleywood...


what tests are next ?  how do I know exactly what it is ?


thanks


 

User
Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 13:33

Not all prostate cancers cause an increase in PSA, it's perfectly true, but those which do not are exceedingly rare. I understand your worry, but with a normal PSA it is overwhelmingly likely that you don't have prostate cancer. I would, however, second the advice to request a urology referral.


UCH is University College Hospital in London, one of the leading centres for treatment of prostate cancer in the UK.


It's worth noting, by the way, that localised prostate cancer typically results in no symptoms whatsoever, and specifically does NOT cause pain. The fact that you have the ache you've described is strongly suggestive that you don't have prostate cancer!


Best wishes,


Chris

Edited by member 31 Jan 2020 at 13:39  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 14:14

Thank you.


I am just worried with my family history and my GP not being very reassuring...


I will get a referral to the Urologist at my local hospital


If it is this Prostatis, can that be cured?


 

User
Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 14:53

Sometimes it can be difficult, but I think a urologist specialising in prostatitis will stand the best chance. I don't know if it's absolutely always curable.


The one at The FOPS said he obtains and cultures prostatic fluid to identify the bacteria (can't use urine or semen to do this, which is what others commonly try). Then an antibiotic is selected which both hits the bacteria, and is able to get into the prostate (many antibiotics can't get into the prostate).

User
Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 16:33

Hi, please see my profile. I was diagnosed with Prostatitis last year, but was on antibiotics for 6 weeks and later diagnosed with Prostate Cancer. There's some good information on this site regarding prostatitis, but think more research needs to be done. All the best.

User
Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 16:57

Very surprised you have not been referred to urology given your family history.  I originally went to my GP with a UTI.  Because my dad had died of PCa she sent me for a PSA test, which was normal, and did a DRE which detected nothing but due to family history she still referred me to urology.


Long story short, scan and biopsy revealed low risk Gleason 6 tumour.  22 months later a scan and biopsy discovered a new Gleason 8 tumour.  I've recently started hormone therapy and will start EBRT in a few months.  Just to stress, I have never had any symptoms, DRE's detect no abnormality and my PSA at latest reading is still only 3.2.


Basically, if my GP hadn't referred me to urology back in 2017 I'd be none the wiser and living my life today unaware anything was wrong.

User
Posted 31 Jan 2020 at 17:53
Bluntly, get a different GP - yours sounds dreadful. If it is a group practice, ask for an appointment to see one of the others. You need a referral to urology for further assessment.

By the way, normal could mean anything in terms of PSA. Can you tell us the actual readings you have had, please?
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 01 Feb 2020 at 12:03

Thanks for replying. What is a Gleason tumour? And the other abbreviations? Thanks

User
Posted 01 Feb 2020 at 12:04

The readings are 0.3 and 0.5


i have an appointment at the GP on Monday

User
Posted 01 Feb 2020 at 12:40
0.3 and 0.5 are exceedingly healthy readings for your age, the normal range being up to 3.0 so you are very unlikely to have prostate cancer. However, the symptoms you are experiencing are affecting your life so a referral to urology is sensible.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 04 May 2020 at 20:54

Hello, me again.


my husband has had an ultrasound which they said was ok.  He is waiting for a flow test ( was cancelled because of Covid 19.


since he has had the ultrasound the prostatis has not improved, if anything it is getting worse. The pressure and irritant is driving him mad and getting worse.  He has nothing for treatment? He gets a hot bath every night and takes ibuprofen. It’s sore to sit for any length of time.


tonight in the bath he said he has found a lump underneath.  What do we do now? Any help would be appreciated, thanks

User
Posted 04 May 2020 at 21:12

Ring the GP to tell them about the lump - the initial suggestion of epididymitis might have been right. You don't get lumps and bumps with prostate cancer or prostatitis. 


Someone else here might know whether there are any glands in the perineum that can get swollen with infection in the same way that you can feel the glands in your neck when you have a sore throat?  

Edited by member 04 May 2020 at 21:17  | Reason: Not specified

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 04 May 2020 at 21:37

I don't think there are any lymph nodes in the perineum. Pretty much, it's just the penis bulb centrally, and cowpers glands behind that. There may be some lymph nodes around the anus - not sure exactly where those ones are.

User
Posted 04 May 2020 at 22:08
Good point - a cyst in one of the Cowper's glands might be felt from underneath.

One way or another, a conversation with GP is needed - the lump may be nothing to do with the prostatitis.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
 
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