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Weak orgasms - advice needed

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Posted 18 Aug 2024 at 22:43

After losing my prostate and nerves as part of a bigger surgery I became impotent and before that I had also lost my ejaculation (but not my erections). Unfortunately without my ejaculation my orgasms aren't always good like before. They can range from very good to disappointing (depending if am flaccid or not + mood) but mostly they are disappointing. Before surgery no matter my mood I would always get a "good enough" satisfaction but now this is no longer the case.

Having been made impotent I have tried "shaking the snake" in its flaccid state and some satisfactory orgasms can still be achieved  but mostly not and as a result am generally left unsatisfied and thinking about sex all the time. This has become frustrating.  Now, mind you, my mood is not good as I suffer from mild to moderate depression/sadness because of what has happened to my life and I see no way of ever getting good energy levels. I am always slow and tired and have been like this way before my cancer/surgeries journey however in the past even though depressed I never had orgasm issues. Its only right after losing my ejaculation that the unreliability started and then even more so once I became impotent.

What are the solutions to bring back powerful dry orgasms? For sure low mood doesn't help but anything else? I am single so my hands is all I have with no prospects or hopes of this changing anytime soon.

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Posted 19 Aug 2024 at 05:26

Hi JimmyChoo,

I feel for you, the treatment for this disease can have such a dramatic effect on what is so important to many men…their sex lives. For you, even worse because I assume you still have your libido, although if your mood is low then perhaps that is low is well? Here’s what I would suggest….bear in mind I am not medically trained, just a good listeneršŸ˜Š

1. does your NHS trust have an ED nurse. if so, try and get an appointment. If not and you can afford it seek out a specialist privately.
2. Arrange an appointment with the sexual health team on PCUK. I did and they spent some time with me and really helped me come to terms with things.
3. Find ways to improve your mood…here I go again, promoting Maggies, people must think I’m on CommissionšŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£. If you have a centre near you and go along and find if there any support groups. IMHO there is nothing like talking and listening to men in the same boat as yourself…..they just ‘get it’ and will offer you so much support. The number of men I see that join our group, and come in looking like rabbits in headlights, but go away feeling SO much better. Please don’t think ‘it’s not for me’…maybe it won’t be but you won’t know until you’ve tried it.
Also be GOOD to yourself, give yourself lots of treats and do things that will make you smile or laugh.
Keep as active as you can, I know it’s a struggle at times but it really will help your mood.

Finally if you’re really struggling go and see your GP. When I started on HT I suffered debilitating anxiety and he put me on Sertraline which really helped me get through this.

I wish you all the best.

Derek

 

User
Posted 19 Aug 2024 at 15:33

Hi Jimmy Choo

I don't know how old you are? In my case the difficulty with orgasm has more to do with my age rather than the prostatectomy over 12 years ago. However if you are trying to achieve orgasms by masturbating a limp penis it is much easier and satisfying if you were to use a VED to achieve a little erection; feels more natural. Also have you thought of using a vibrator; that certainly helps me. My wife also helps, if I don't achieve an orgasm after penetrative or oral sex because using a VED and constriction ring/s makes it difficult to orgasm because the ring does not allow any 'ejaculation' (mine is urine!) making it more difficult or almost impossible as I age. Also remember orgasms take place both in the penis and the brain so a certain amount of erotic energy, by whatever means, would help.

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

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Posted 18 Aug 2024 at 22:43

After losing my prostate and nerves as part of a bigger surgery I became impotent and before that I had also lost my ejaculation (but not my erections). Unfortunately without my ejaculation my orgasms aren't always good like before. They can range from very good to disappointing (depending if am flaccid or not + mood) but mostly they are disappointing. Before surgery no matter my mood I would always get a "good enough" satisfaction but now this is no longer the case.

Having been made impotent I have tried "shaking the snake" in its flaccid state and some satisfactory orgasms can still be achieved  but mostly not and as a result am generally left unsatisfied and thinking about sex all the time. This has become frustrating.  Now, mind you, my mood is not good as I suffer from mild to moderate depression/sadness because of what has happened to my life and I see no way of ever getting good energy levels. I am always slow and tired and have been like this way before my cancer/surgeries journey however in the past even though depressed I never had orgasm issues. Its only right after losing my ejaculation that the unreliability started and then even more so once I became impotent.

What are the solutions to bring back powerful dry orgasms? For sure low mood doesn't help but anything else? I am single so my hands is all I have with no prospects or hopes of this changing anytime soon.

User
Posted 10 Sep 2024 at 00:27

Have you tried a male vibrator? Most are made for women and not ideally suited to men. There are some male ones, although some require an erection which isn't likely to work in this case. However, there are a small number of male vibrators which can work with a flaccid penis such as the Hot Octopuss Pulse Solo.

User
Posted 20 Sep 2024 at 17:50
May not be the answer that you want, but after 8 years of trying to get erections and orgasms, my wife and I have come to the joint opinion that the awkwardness, distraction and (if successful) painfully uncomfortable erections just ain't worth it. We have given up on any attempt at penetration - frankly to my wife's relief anyway. However, we still "make love" at least twice a week by focusing on turning each other on with gentle foreplay and then each of us using our vibrators side by side. We each get a buzz when the other orgasms. It's taken some time to find the right vibrators, but I see someone suggests the Hot Octopus which I also thoroughly recommend. It fits comfortably on a floppy dick and focusses on the frenum. Ideal if the odd inch disappeared during the op too! A lot of male vibrators are only suitable to large erect dicks, so sadly waste of money for many of us. Have fun.
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Posted 19 Aug 2024 at 05:26

Hi JimmyChoo,

I feel for you, the treatment for this disease can have such a dramatic effect on what is so important to many men…their sex lives. For you, even worse because I assume you still have your libido, although if your mood is low then perhaps that is low is well? Here’s what I would suggest….bear in mind I am not medically trained, just a good listeneršŸ˜Š

1. does your NHS trust have an ED nurse. if so, try and get an appointment. If not and you can afford it seek out a specialist privately.
2. Arrange an appointment with the sexual health team on PCUK. I did and they spent some time with me and really helped me come to terms with things.
3. Find ways to improve your mood…here I go again, promoting Maggies, people must think I’m on CommissionšŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£. If you have a centre near you and go along and find if there any support groups. IMHO there is nothing like talking and listening to men in the same boat as yourself…..they just ‘get it’ and will offer you so much support. The number of men I see that join our group, and come in looking like rabbits in headlights, but go away feeling SO much better. Please don’t think ‘it’s not for me’…maybe it won’t be but you won’t know until you’ve tried it.
Also be GOOD to yourself, give yourself lots of treats and do things that will make you smile or laugh.
Keep as active as you can, I know it’s a struggle at times but it really will help your mood.

Finally if you’re really struggling go and see your GP. When I started on HT I suffered debilitating anxiety and he put me on Sertraline which really helped me get through this.

I wish you all the best.

Derek

 

User
Posted 19 Aug 2024 at 15:33

Hi Jimmy Choo

I don't know how old you are? In my case the difficulty with orgasm has more to do with my age rather than the prostatectomy over 12 years ago. However if you are trying to achieve orgasms by masturbating a limp penis it is much easier and satisfying if you were to use a VED to achieve a little erection; feels more natural. Also have you thought of using a vibrator; that certainly helps me. My wife also helps, if I don't achieve an orgasm after penetrative or oral sex because using a VED and constriction ring/s makes it difficult to orgasm because the ring does not allow any 'ejaculation' (mine is urine!) making it more difficult or almost impossible as I age. Also remember orgasms take place both in the penis and the brain so a certain amount of erotic energy, by whatever means, would help.

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

User
Posted 09 Sep 2024 at 20:43
I am only 40. I think the fact I am depressed might play a role because nothing else has happened to me since last time I could get an orgasm. I am seriously considering an implant at this stage as I am not sure I can stand the injections.
User
Posted 10 Sep 2024 at 00:27

Have you tried a male vibrator? Most are made for women and not ideally suited to men. There are some male ones, although some require an erection which isn't likely to work in this case. However, there are a small number of male vibrators which can work with a flaccid penis such as the Hot Octopuss Pulse Solo.

User
Posted 10 Sep 2024 at 23:54

No I haven't. Do they work well and give you good orgasms?

I am suspicious my depressive mood is affecting my ability to orgasm.

User
Posted 11 Sep 2024 at 07:32

After reading more of your posts Jimmy, it maybe that depression is linked to your lack of libido. I suspect most men with our disease have physical and mental problems with our sex lives. It's often a case of having to adapt to the 'new' you.

Issues are often made worse by the fact that a lot of us over estimate the dimensions and performance of the 'normal penis'. Which is why I posted this link a few weeks ago.

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t30545-Is-my-penis-normal

 

Edited by member 21 Sep 2024 at 10:41  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 12 Sep 2024 at 16:09

I don't have weak orgasms, but totally zero orgasms. I use Cialis to achieve any sort of erection and even with a very cooperative partner have not had an orgasm since January this year. Am on hormone treatment have no lack of desire but it simply does not happen.

Any suggestions?

User
Posted 20 Sep 2024 at 17:50
May not be the answer that you want, but after 8 years of trying to get erections and orgasms, my wife and I have come to the joint opinion that the awkwardness, distraction and (if successful) painfully uncomfortable erections just ain't worth it. We have given up on any attempt at penetration - frankly to my wife's relief anyway. However, we still "make love" at least twice a week by focusing on turning each other on with gentle foreplay and then each of us using our vibrators side by side. We each get a buzz when the other orgasms. It's taken some time to find the right vibrators, but I see someone suggests the Hot Octopus which I also thoroughly recommend. It fits comfortably on a floppy dick and focusses on the frenum. Ideal if the odd inch disappeared during the op too! A lot of male vibrators are only suitable to large erect dicks, so sadly waste of money for many of us. Have fun.
User
Posted 20 Sep 2024 at 19:47

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I see someone suggests the Hot Octopus which I also thoroughly recommend.

 Tentacles and testicles seems a dodgy combo.

Joking apart, I suppose if sex/intimacy is still important to you or your partner, then experimentation is the key. 

 

Edited by member 21 Sep 2024 at 10:05  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 20 Sep 2024 at 21:15

Great summary, we are in your camp too , well written. 

User
Posted 21 Sep 2024 at 10:34
Thank you very much for your helpful comments. It certainly helps to get things into perspective and see that being happy with what we have is much more important than expending too much energy to seek the impossible.
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Posted 24 Oct 2024 at 21:07
Ebay do similar at less than Ā£20 each which too work very well , keep one with my pump kit .
 
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