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Posted 04 Nov 2024 at 17:45

I am currently awaiting a date at Guilford to undergo a radical prostatectomy. Is there anyone who is willing to share there experiences of this procedure and the consequences of having it?

User
Posted 04 Nov 2024 at 20:57
Lots of stories on this site about guys experience of prostatectomy, just remember it's mostly the problems that get discussed on here. All the success stories are enjoying life!
User
Posted 04 Nov 2024 at 21:48

Hi Ian.

Welcome to the forum mate

There are countless conversations on prostatectomies. On preparing for the op. Having the op. Immediate problems after the op. Long term side effects of the op. The list goes on and on and on......

You can use the forum search box for specific prostatectomy issues. 

Here's a link to my surgery experiences.

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t30214-Almost-a-year-on-after-RARP

 

Best of luck mate. 👍

 

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 04:31

I’m 2 weeks post op, 53, relatively fit and active..but carrying too much weight. (Not ideal but no concerns for surgery.) I’m T3a Gleason 4+4…found cancer in one of the lymph nodes removed…which considering I only found out I had PC by a chance PSA test it has been some 3 month journey I can tell you.

Anyway back to surgery. I went for the robotic procedure, quicker healing, less infection risk. 

Certainly no reason to regret this decision I was out the day after (fairly standard), tired and stiff but on surprisingly good form. It’s honestly OK…you wouldn’t do it for a hobby mind.

If you can stay away from morphine if it’s on tap…the constipation it caused me was probably my biggest issue for the first few days. Regularly take the laxatives.

Second was the catheter, so glad that annoying little *******  is out. Make sure you strap it on and avoid bulky pads which push against it. Keep it clean. Swear at it a lot. 

As soon as you can get walking about the house and outside…the difference you feel is amazing for just a few 20 minutes strolls around the block

Drink lots and lots of water, avoid booze (I crumbled…regretted it the next day), don’t worry that the colour of your wee changes so drastically from a 15 year malt to pinot noir. It’s fine. 

Rest up, don’t worry you get better every day.

Absolutely no regrets…now I’m leaking like a sieve now and when I do wee I’m off like a sprinkler head…still on the squeeze app.

Anyway hope this helps, stay strong, it’s easier than you think and I suspect you will wonder how you got so worked up in the first place….I did.

 

 

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 08:11

I am coming up to two yeas post RARP. Like yourself I was apprehensive but in all honesty it was not an issue. Like AJW I was discharged the follow day with a supply of strong painkillers and antibiotics but found I didn't need the painkillers - I was sore but not in pain. 
Don’t touch alcohol and I found going caffeine free helped as both irritate the bladder. I actually found a ginger and lemon tea more enjoyable during the early stages of recovery but am back to my tea (decaffeinated). 

I was told not to lift anything heavier than a cup of tea for the first two weeks and to gradually build things up for six weeks while the body repairs itself. Buy some comfortable, baggy jogging bottoms  - they’re comfortable when wearing the catheter. Shorts walks are a must to keep the body active but don’t try to do too much - you’ll feel fine but remember you’ve had major surgery.


The catheter was an issue as it was sometimes uncomfortable and I ended up sore at the tip of my penis. The District Nurses dropped off a gel which relieved this, and I’m aware others in this forum have bought similar from the chemist. For me, the catheter was in for 12 days and it was pure joy getting it out. 


I recommend downloading the Squeezy app to regain control of your bladder. We’re all different and I’m aware of others in the forum who have been virtually continent immediately after the catheter was removed. I took several weeks to achieve that.

Once the catheter was out I was prescribed Sildenafil to get blood flowing back where it’s needed, and three months later was prescribed a vacuum pump to further aid recovery. ED is a very common side-effect if the operation and although my procedure was nerve-sparing I still need the Sildenafil and a constriction ring to be able to have, and enjoy, penetration. 

If you have any concerns/issues post-op, contact your specialist nurses. Mine were brilliant and they never made me felt I was being a nuisance.

The waiting is the worst part. You’ll find the operation is very straightforward and will be not as bad as you fear. 

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 09:57

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Drink lots and lots of water, avoid booze (I crumbled…regretted it the next day)

Hello mate.

 What a very helpful and humourous first post. Welcome to the forum mate.

Both you and Probbo mention avoiding the booze.  I've found that some blokes set themselves little challenges during recovery. Some are determined to restart hill walking or jogging, or golfing or bike riding or even marathon running. Some even wanted to get back to playing brass instruments again. My aim was far less strenuous. It was to get back to the pub asap. 

After my op, no-one warned me to avoid alcohol and I wasn't going to ask for their approval, after all, I've never heard a doctor say booze is good for you.

The night I got out of hospital I had a couple of whiskies to celebrate being home. I was back in the pub four days later, my wife took a photo of me that day. I use it as my profile picture. I was happy, reuniting with my boozing buddies and filling my catheter with recycled Stella. To me that photo depicts the start of my challenge to beat prostate cancer, a bit like the photo of Sherpa Tenzing and Hillary leaving base camp to conquer Everest. 😄

During my recovery having a few pints has done me no harm, in fact, it's done me good and helped get back to normality.

Hopefully, if they ever get to tell me I've beaten cancer, I'll get her to take another photo of me having a celebratory pint. It'll be the mountaineering equivalent of me reaching the summit and waving the flag.

I started a thread on having a beer or two during recovery. 

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t30229-Drinky-poos#post29210

 

PS: AJ, I wish the best of luck on your recovery mate. Keep posting mate.👍

Edited by member 05 Nov 2024 at 18:14  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 10:17

Hi Ian, I’m 5 weeks post RARP yesterday. No regrets so far.

Obviously everyone is different but for me the pain was manageable from day 1 and I have been pretty much pain free for a good couple of weeks now. Use your prescribed painkillers (I was told paracetamol as a base every four hours) but try and stay off the stronger stuff unless you really need it as can make you constipated.

Try and get up and walking as soon as possible, but don’t overdo it, your body will let you know I found. I was recommended not to walk outside whilst the catheter was in so just build it up slowly, regular movement helps with the constipation as well. On that note take the laxatives for as long as they recommend, I think I did for a couple of weeks. They are quite gentle but it will be sore and you won’t want to push so it makes life easier for you.

The catheter is a pain to manage but not the end of the world and you get used to dealing with it. Like others I found I was sore by the time it was due out and it was a real relief to be rid of it! You can get a gel that numbs you and helps with the discomfort.

Expect to have some incontinence when the catheter comes out. For me I’m down to one pad a day now and feels like things are improving. Download the Squeezy app and get started on the pelvic floors now, I think it’s helped me a lot. Just wait for the catheter to come out before resuming them post op! I’d also recommend to take as long as possible away from work, you are having major surgery and it’s very clear for me the more i’m stressed or tired the worse the incontinence. You will have been through a lot mentally and physically, take the time to recover. You will have ups and downs and there’s always the next thing to worry about (histology, first post op PSA test etc) so don’t be hard on yourself.

Early days for ED and nothing to report yet for me but that’s to be expected. Find out if you are a candidate for nerve sparring surgery. I’ve been prescribed with 5mg Tadalafil to help so something to ask about.

Hope all goes well for you mate.

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 16:14

Hi Ian

I'm three months post RARP which was performed at Eastbourne DGH.

Catheter wasn't a real problem, you get used to it. I found a walk round the block each day really helped.

No real pain just a bit sore moving round and turning over in bed. Took about two weeks for this to resolve. Only took the ibuprofen as recommended by the hospital.

When the catheter was removed 10 days later I was a bit pissy but it settled down very quickly after a couple of days. I'm currently using one incontinence pad a day and that is purely precautionary and don't need to wear it at night.

Definitely do your pelvic floor muscle exercises religiously. The Squeeze Men app is great.

Started playing golf seven weeks after the op but took things slowly, practiced chipping and putting first, then hitting a dozen or so balls on the practice range few times and then nine holes using a buggy, building up to 18 holes. You get the picture. It's my way of saying there is life after surgery.

Must have worked because my handicap has gone down from 8.4 to 7.5 which like my PSA tests is in the right direction.

Lot's of us have trod this particular treatment pathway and I would say most have come out the other end successfully.

Hope this helps.

 

Edited by member 05 Nov 2024 at 16:23  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 07 Nov 2024 at 21:35

Hi

I chose Davinci robot RP and believe it was my best option. I didn't like the possible side effects of radiation, and with two grown up children, didn't need the prostate!

Secondly If something remains and grows back Chemo/radiotherapy is still available as a follow-up treatment.

There's also several other lesser known treatments, eg ultrasonic, but would have meant me forking out thousands as wasn't available in my NHS health region.

The Op was frightening but went well and suprised me how little pain was experienced and how quickly I healed.

As other have said, expect to leak - You have to learn to control it all over again. Something which we last learned as an infant.

Some 18 months on, I'd have liked to have been totally dry, but still have a little leakage - Irritating but something easy to live with.

ED is also a side effect - I got tablets, a Pump and rings prescribed - Works well for me and the pump was certainly a new experience - Just make it fun.

Would I choose it again? - Yes, I believe my cancer was removed.

good luck

Andrew

 

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User
Posted 04 Nov 2024 at 20:57
Lots of stories on this site about guys experience of prostatectomy, just remember it's mostly the problems that get discussed on here. All the success stories are enjoying life!
User
Posted 04 Nov 2024 at 21:20

Hi francij1,

Any idea where I can see posts by prostatectomy patients? Do you have a link?

Thanks,

abacus1966 (Ian).

User
Posted 04 Nov 2024 at 21:48

Hi Ian.

Welcome to the forum mate

There are countless conversations on prostatectomies. On preparing for the op. Having the op. Immediate problems after the op. Long term side effects of the op. The list goes on and on and on......

You can use the forum search box for specific prostatectomy issues. 

Here's a link to my surgery experiences.

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t30214-Almost-a-year-on-after-RARP

 

Best of luck mate. 👍

 

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 04:31

I’m 2 weeks post op, 53, relatively fit and active..but carrying too much weight. (Not ideal but no concerns for surgery.) I’m T3a Gleason 4+4…found cancer in one of the lymph nodes removed…which considering I only found out I had PC by a chance PSA test it has been some 3 month journey I can tell you.

Anyway back to surgery. I went for the robotic procedure, quicker healing, less infection risk. 

Certainly no reason to regret this decision I was out the day after (fairly standard), tired and stiff but on surprisingly good form. It’s honestly OK…you wouldn’t do it for a hobby mind.

If you can stay away from morphine if it’s on tap…the constipation it caused me was probably my biggest issue for the first few days. Regularly take the laxatives.

Second was the catheter, so glad that annoying little *******  is out. Make sure you strap it on and avoid bulky pads which push against it. Keep it clean. Swear at it a lot. 

As soon as you can get walking about the house and outside…the difference you feel is amazing for just a few 20 minutes strolls around the block

Drink lots and lots of water, avoid booze (I crumbled…regretted it the next day), don’t worry that the colour of your wee changes so drastically from a 15 year malt to pinot noir. It’s fine. 

Rest up, don’t worry you get better every day.

Absolutely no regrets…now I’m leaking like a sieve now and when I do wee I’m off like a sprinkler head…still on the squeeze app.

Anyway hope this helps, stay strong, it’s easier than you think and I suspect you will wonder how you got so worked up in the first place….I did.

 

 

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 08:11

I am coming up to two yeas post RARP. Like yourself I was apprehensive but in all honesty it was not an issue. Like AJW I was discharged the follow day with a supply of strong painkillers and antibiotics but found I didn't need the painkillers - I was sore but not in pain. 
Don’t touch alcohol and I found going caffeine free helped as both irritate the bladder. I actually found a ginger and lemon tea more enjoyable during the early stages of recovery but am back to my tea (decaffeinated). 

I was told not to lift anything heavier than a cup of tea for the first two weeks and to gradually build things up for six weeks while the body repairs itself. Buy some comfortable, baggy jogging bottoms  - they’re comfortable when wearing the catheter. Shorts walks are a must to keep the body active but don’t try to do too much - you’ll feel fine but remember you’ve had major surgery.


The catheter was an issue as it was sometimes uncomfortable and I ended up sore at the tip of my penis. The District Nurses dropped off a gel which relieved this, and I’m aware others in this forum have bought similar from the chemist. For me, the catheter was in for 12 days and it was pure joy getting it out. 


I recommend downloading the Squeezy app to regain control of your bladder. We’re all different and I’m aware of others in the forum who have been virtually continent immediately after the catheter was removed. I took several weeks to achieve that.

Once the catheter was out I was prescribed Sildenafil to get blood flowing back where it’s needed, and three months later was prescribed a vacuum pump to further aid recovery. ED is a very common side-effect if the operation and although my procedure was nerve-sparing I still need the Sildenafil and a constriction ring to be able to have, and enjoy, penetration. 

If you have any concerns/issues post-op, contact your specialist nurses. Mine were brilliant and they never made me felt I was being a nuisance.

The waiting is the worst part. You’ll find the operation is very straightforward and will be not as bad as you fear. 

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 09:57

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Drink lots and lots of water, avoid booze (I crumbled…regretted it the next day)

Hello mate.

 What a very helpful and humourous first post. Welcome to the forum mate.

Both you and Probbo mention avoiding the booze.  I've found that some blokes set themselves little challenges during recovery. Some are determined to restart hill walking or jogging, or golfing or bike riding or even marathon running. Some even wanted to get back to playing brass instruments again. My aim was far less strenuous. It was to get back to the pub asap. 

After my op, no-one warned me to avoid alcohol and I wasn't going to ask for their approval, after all, I've never heard a doctor say booze is good for you.

The night I got out of hospital I had a couple of whiskies to celebrate being home. I was back in the pub four days later, my wife took a photo of me that day. I use it as my profile picture. I was happy, reuniting with my boozing buddies and filling my catheter with recycled Stella. To me that photo depicts the start of my challenge to beat prostate cancer, a bit like the photo of Sherpa Tenzing and Hillary leaving base camp to conquer Everest. 😄

During my recovery having a few pints has done me no harm, in fact, it's done me good and helped get back to normality.

Hopefully, if they ever get to tell me I've beaten cancer, I'll get her to take another photo of me having a celebratory pint. It'll be the mountaineering equivalent of me reaching the summit and waving the flag.

I started a thread on having a beer or two during recovery. 

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t30229-Drinky-poos#post29210

 

PS: AJ, I wish the best of luck on your recovery mate. Keep posting mate.👍

Edited by member 05 Nov 2024 at 18:14  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 10:17

Hi Ian, I’m 5 weeks post RARP yesterday. No regrets so far.

Obviously everyone is different but for me the pain was manageable from day 1 and I have been pretty much pain free for a good couple of weeks now. Use your prescribed painkillers (I was told paracetamol as a base every four hours) but try and stay off the stronger stuff unless you really need it as can make you constipated.

Try and get up and walking as soon as possible, but don’t overdo it, your body will let you know I found. I was recommended not to walk outside whilst the catheter was in so just build it up slowly, regular movement helps with the constipation as well. On that note take the laxatives for as long as they recommend, I think I did for a couple of weeks. They are quite gentle but it will be sore and you won’t want to push so it makes life easier for you.

The catheter is a pain to manage but not the end of the world and you get used to dealing with it. Like others I found I was sore by the time it was due out and it was a real relief to be rid of it! You can get a gel that numbs you and helps with the discomfort.

Expect to have some incontinence when the catheter comes out. For me I’m down to one pad a day now and feels like things are improving. Download the Squeezy app and get started on the pelvic floors now, I think it’s helped me a lot. Just wait for the catheter to come out before resuming them post op! I’d also recommend to take as long as possible away from work, you are having major surgery and it’s very clear for me the more i’m stressed or tired the worse the incontinence. You will have been through a lot mentally and physically, take the time to recover. You will have ups and downs and there’s always the next thing to worry about (histology, first post op PSA test etc) so don’t be hard on yourself.

Early days for ED and nothing to report yet for me but that’s to be expected. Find out if you are a candidate for nerve sparring surgery. I’ve been prescribed with 5mg Tadalafil to help so something to ask about.

Hope all goes well for you mate.

User
Posted 05 Nov 2024 at 16:14

Hi Ian

I'm three months post RARP which was performed at Eastbourne DGH.

Catheter wasn't a real problem, you get used to it. I found a walk round the block each day really helped.

No real pain just a bit sore moving round and turning over in bed. Took about two weeks for this to resolve. Only took the ibuprofen as recommended by the hospital.

When the catheter was removed 10 days later I was a bit pissy but it settled down very quickly after a couple of days. I'm currently using one incontinence pad a day and that is purely precautionary and don't need to wear it at night.

Definitely do your pelvic floor muscle exercises religiously. The Squeeze Men app is great.

Started playing golf seven weeks after the op but took things slowly, practiced chipping and putting first, then hitting a dozen or so balls on the practice range few times and then nine holes using a buggy, building up to 18 holes. You get the picture. It's my way of saying there is life after surgery.

Must have worked because my handicap has gone down from 8.4 to 7.5 which like my PSA tests is in the right direction.

Lot's of us have trod this particular treatment pathway and I would say most have come out the other end successfully.

Hope this helps.

 

Edited by member 05 Nov 2024 at 16:23  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 07 Nov 2024 at 21:35

Hi

I chose Davinci robot RP and believe it was my best option. I didn't like the possible side effects of radiation, and with two grown up children, didn't need the prostate!

Secondly If something remains and grows back Chemo/radiotherapy is still available as a follow-up treatment.

There's also several other lesser known treatments, eg ultrasonic, but would have meant me forking out thousands as wasn't available in my NHS health region.

The Op was frightening but went well and suprised me how little pain was experienced and how quickly I healed.

As other have said, expect to leak - You have to learn to control it all over again. Something which we last learned as an infant.

Some 18 months on, I'd have liked to have been totally dry, but still have a little leakage - Irritating but something easy to live with.

ED is also a side effect - I got tablets, a Pump and rings prescribed - Works well for me and the pump was certainly a new experience - Just make it fun.

Would I choose it again? - Yes, I believe my cancer was removed.

good luck

Andrew

 

User
Posted 08 Nov 2024 at 10:03

Hi Abacus, please see my posts.

Freddy

 

 
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