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Posted 31 May 2014 at 19:09
Judging from facebook, Janet is having a lovely birthday with good wishes from her many friends. Janet, I think you know how much I admire you but just in case ... Mike would be so very proud of you; you are one amazing lady and deserve to have a wonderful day xxx
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 31 May 2014 at 20:43

I raise my glass, to Janet and all the carers. Cheers!

User
Posted 31 May 2014 at 21:51

Happy Birthday Janet

BFN

Julie X

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
User
Posted 31 May 2014 at 22:36
Barry, you have embarrassed me, you are so kind. Firstly do make sure you get that pain sorted. I think the key is to keep on top of it, but the nurses are the experts, and have all the latest solutions, I am so pleased you are involving them rather than trying to struggle on. In this day and age there is no need for pain but it can catch us out as it changes and the solution needs to change.

I had a lovely day out today with my son and daughter in law, got dropped off in time for Greg to watch the boxing so happily munching celery (no idea why!) and catching up on my iPad, my constant companion. Certainly not my previous usual birthday evening but perfectly ok, and my head should be clear in the morning!

My life has changed so much over the last few years and I have met such wonderful people, who have become part of my life. I am sorry I cannot keep up with everyone on here as much as I would like, work and just life seems to take up so much time. For Mike there wasn't much time once he was diagnosed and treatments that are common-place now weren't available then. It is so rewarding to see so many men doing well, and also the support given to those going through a tougher time. The strength and compassion shown on this site is truly amazing and I am so proud to call so many of you my friends. And to meet up with so many of you in Leicester is truly the icing on the cake. I was so nervous the first year I went wondering what I was doing but came away feeling I was leaving old friends, old in that I had known them so long, not their ages!

Thank you all for your good wishes and kind comments, much love Janet, xxx

User
Posted 31 May 2014 at 22:41
Janet

As a newbie, it is clear how respected you are on this site. I'm gladyou had a good day.

I have often read about Leicester. I have searched to find out about this event, but found nothing. Could someone please let me know exactly what it is all about, as I would like to attend if possible.

Thanks

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 01 Jun 2014 at 00:35
Hi Paul,

Strictly speaking, the annual get together at Leicester is a B2PCa (bo11ox to prostate cancer) event but since many members of B2PCa are also on here, it feels like one and the same. George organises us all, details are posted in the events section of this forum, some of us stay for one, two or three nights while others attend just for the day - the actual event is an afternoon with a speaker (this year, Si's onco) and a buffet.

Usually a complete sell out months in advance, 80 people most of whom have bladder problems drinking .... carnage but great fun and as Janet says, strong friendships are inevitably formed. I don't know whether there are any spaces for this year but you could message George to ask?

Having said it is an annual event, it happens twice! London, usually the first week of December. Watch the events thread for that one too.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 01 Jun 2014 at 01:23
Thanks, Lyn. Janet also sent me a PM, detailing everything.
Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 02 Jun 2014 at 12:25
Hi all,

Well despite being a stubborn old fool I did call in the pain nurse (OK I admit it...it was Karen). I have more pain around the rib cage but the pain in my bum has got worse and is constantly there despite pain medication. I have a feeling of always needing to open my bowels especially when standing / walking and when having a wee. I am also bleeding when going. This is limiting my quality of life in fact it's a right pain in the ar*e.

The immediate action is upping the Zomorph to 50mg but it is thought that there might now be a blockage caused through spread of PCa tumours in the bowel / groin area.

I have a scan on Wednesday with Onco appointment the following Wednesday 11th June. Depending on that the next step might well be direct RT on the troublesome area in the hope it will reduce the size of the tumour. Quite how that reacts with the fact I have had RT for PCa is for me an unknown and something I will have to question if that becomes likely. The trouble is at the moment we are chasing the pain as it varies in location but I think they need to prioritise the pain in the bum as that is causing me real discomfort whilst for now I can cope with the rib cage aches and pain.

Above all that is the need and desire to be able to make the trip from Weymouth to Leicester for the madcap gig. We are stopping off for a couple of nights on the way back (at the Runnymead on the Thames Hotel in Windsor to celebrate our Silver Wedding Anniversary) but might have to look at stopping off somewhere on the way up.....anyone know of a good pub with accommodation just off the M25 Heathrow direction?

In the meantime, despite the cr*p,

Life is for living

Barry (alias Barrington )

User
Posted 02 Jun 2014 at 19:35

Hi Barry,

Have you moved your thread? I have had a heck of a time trying to find you today. I feel like I have been up the M25 myself. I couldn't find you on the dark side so I went back to your original thread and tracked you down through that.

Sorry to hear the pain in the bum is persisting but I am glad that Karen pressed the panic button for you. You men what are you like.http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-undecided.gif.

I will be thinking of you on Wed. We have Onco and latest PSA results on Thur I will post on my own thread when we have news if I can find ithttp://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-undecided.gif.

I hope the pain sorts out soon.

BFN

JulieX

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
User
Posted 02 Jun 2014 at 20:33
I sincerely hope that the pain int the ar*e is under control by now, frankly if RT. can help then I'd go for it. I guess the medics will take into account all the facts nd make the right decision.

You are another one that smiles through the difficult times, though it isn't expected - well what I really mean is that you have the ability to make us smile through your difficult times. Today of all days, I thank you for that.

Much love

Allison xxxx

User
Posted 03 Jun 2014 at 01:02
TG,

putting it bluntly, whatever the research is about maximum dose of RT, I don't think you are going to be around in 10 or 15 years when the damage from an extra zapping starts to make itself known.

I just want you to be as pain free as possible, to not have unpleasant side effects and to be at M-o-t-s to buy me a cup of tea. Tell them to do whatever might help - sod the long-term side effects x

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 03 Jun 2014 at 09:11

Hope you got something sorted yesterday, TG.  

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 03 Jun 2014 at 10:24
Hi Lyn ,

Totally agree but will have to wait until I see Onco on the 11th to discuss tomorrow's scan. If it shows that it's a tumour causing the pain I will put forward the idea of RT if he doesn't mention it first. It will probably be on my notes anyway following yesterday's visit from pain nurse.

As for Leicester it looks like we might be sharing a pot of tea and a couple of jam doughnuts☕️🍣 as beer is off the menu for now. Talk about quality of life, Barrington at the Leicester gig without a pint in hand......Switzerland here I come.

Sixfoot I have upped the Zomorph but it takes a day or so for it to kick in.

Life is for living

Barry (alias Barrington )

User
Posted 03 Jun 2014 at 13:27

TG this may not be much help but Mick had the same kind of pain in his bum, just how you described it. Finally turned out to be a faeces that had impacted in his rectum, stuff was able to pass round it so he was never actually constipated ...not necessarily going to cheer you up when I say a good old fashioned enema can do the job.

xxx

Mo

User
Posted 03 Jun 2014 at 14:13

Hi Barry,

 

Further R/T will depend on the number of Gy you had to the pelvic region. When you had the initial treatment it's possible you only had say 64Gy which was a typical dose at that time. It's since, in many cases , been upped to around 72-74 Gy. Even higher in a few cases but often with added toxicity. 

The computer will look at your area that was treated ( can be prostate only, or prostate + surrounds), and say if you are likely to tolerate further R/T.

The concern is not any long-term effects but that too much R/T in one area of the body can burn holes in tissue despite the time lapse since original treatment. It has happened on rare occasions  & obviously the radiologist should look carefully at benefit to you or not.

Suspect there might well be a few Gy in reserve for you. Likely dependent on exact location of the problem as well. So well worth checking yourself as to the original dosage. 

Keeping bowels loose may or may not be a problem for you at this time . But as Mo suggests, certainly anything too firm can cause unwanted pressure.

User
Posted 03 Jun 2014 at 15:26
Hi Rob,

Thank you for clarifying the situation and pointing out something I was not aware of. 64GY seems to ring a bell but will be able to confirm when I see my oncologist next week. Amazingly he is the same one who 1st handled my case and then throughout the past 15 plus years and has almost become a friend.

Mo, how kind of you to come along to offer your help just one day after your so sad news. Once again you have shown your love and caring to your fellow man, thank you and I will pass on your thoughts to my Onco next week. Please take care of yourself, mine and Karen's prayers and thoughts are with you and your family.

Barry (alias Barrington )

User
Posted 03 Jun 2014 at 23:55
If you EVER make a swiss comment like that again Barry, I will be giving you an enema - and not with pleasant luke-warm water.

Two teas it is, my friend x

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 04 Jun 2014 at 00:43
Hi Barry

sorry to hear about the butt pain as Eric would say he can cope with pelvic grion and the rib pain obviously with medication but that dam butt pain No.Eric has had RT twice and I am sorry to say that it did not work for him but it might help you everything crossed.When Eric was diagnosed that was the pain he has always complained about.

Now he has a deep indent on his butt showed Consultant she said I have never seen anything like this before you can pull your pants up now????? Eric saw GP said it looked as if there was no fat or muscel in this area still dont know whats going on except the pain.

Hope you have better luck than Eric is having with this pain in the a***

Carol

User
Posted 07 Jun 2014 at 08:18
Hi all,

Can there be a worse week? We lost one of our bravest and happiest members, Mick, on Monday, then received the news of the passing of a true gent that many of us knew, Joe, yesterday.

At a personal level on Thursday my Grand-children went to the funeral of their other Grand-dad. Earlier in the week my 1st cousin called round, his Grand-son aged 14 months died, they think of an epileptic fit.

The father of my daughter's partner is seriously ill with oesophagus cancer which has spread to his liver and is terminal. Now yesterday we find that my 1st wife has aggressive leukaemia and her options and time left are very limited. She is the mother of my two children. Jacqui my daughter is already bearing the brunt of her partners father being so ill and now she has her Mum's diagnosis to contend with on top of mine. My son, James, is dashing backwards and forwards trying to see to everyone's needs plus trying to tie up a very important business deal....oh and moved house in late May.....apparently he has high blood pressure!

For myself the pain in my bum has got worse and I can't get around much or stand for too long but in the scheme of things I'm in a good place and following my scan on Wednesday will be seeing my Onco this coming Wednesday when hopefully he will be able to shine some light on things.....he will have to get his torch out and have a good look round.

So there you have it and as always things could get worse which is why it is important to say that...

Life is for living.....(make the most of it whilst you can)

Barry (alias Barrington)

PS Karen has come up with a conundrum .......supposing both I and my 1st wife die and go to heaven ( no laughter in the stalls please) will we be together and if so what happens when Karen gets up there, will she have to share me? To make the situation even more complicated my 2nd wife will also be there as will my 1st wife's 2nd husband. This is a semi- serious question as Karen does believe that there is some form of after life, whatever that maybe.......a further PS ...she is receiving counselling at this present time!

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User
Posted 07 Jun 2014 at 09:17
Hi Barry

So sorry to hear these awful things all happening together, not exactly the same but we went through a period like this about ten years ago and to this day I don't know how we got through it, but we did. I feel for your children, the only plus is that they are adults and can help and this will sustain them in the time ahead.

I hope the Onco can do something to help with the pain, are you still able to use your scooter?

I have also pondered on the question that Karen raises, but have no answers, my assumption is that heaven is all about love and it'll be everyone happy to be with everyone. I certainly hope so.

So looking forward to seeing you again, not long now.

Lots of love

Allison

 
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