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User
Posted 07 Mar 2018 at 23:26

A packed 2 carriage train Chris? That would be the final straw for me. ;-)

Adore your resilience. Choose wisely mate, and then go for it.

atb to you and D

x

All we can do - is do all that we can.

So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)

I am the statistic.

User
Posted 08 Mar 2018 at 08:42

Oh man I remember you trying to decide what to do and I voted for bladder out back then. You’ve been through all this and it’s not worked :-((
I so admire you , always have , and feel so awful what you’ve been through though I’m probably yet to experience it myself. Try and stay strong Chris. Our love and wishes to you

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User
Posted 08 Mar 2018 at 08:53

What a choice to have to make Chris,

Good luck with whatever path you go down

You are one strong man

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We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 08 Mar 2018 at 11:44
Sorry to hear about your latest situation, I hope they can find a good resolution for you soon.

Best wishes, Arthur

User
Posted 08 Mar 2018 at 12:04
I know you will make your choice and live with it Chris as you have always done.

You are very strong, hope you get things sorted out.

Ian

Ido4

User
Posted 28 Mar 2018 at 20:12
Hi guys

Well I had a couple of days in The Christie this week and I have got to say it is a superb hospitial.

I had cystoscopy and urethrotomy under general anesthesia, the surgeon has cut into the stricture so a little nervous of how that will affect my already iffy incontinence. They filled the bladder to ascertain it's capacity and sadly it it now down to 120ml. The bladder is badly scarred by the radiotherapy and there is little chance of the bladder recovering. I see the surgeon in a couple of weeks to discuss options but it comes down to Suprapubic catheter for life or bladder removal and urostomy bag, I am leaning towards SPC but do wonder how I might cope as I get older.

I now have two catheters again for two weeks, on this occasion the SPC is trouble and pain free, the urethral catheter is very uncomfortable mostly in the perineum area, the instilagel soon relieves the tip of penis stinging. I had forgotten how in uncomfortable bypassing could be.

I am going to have another 20 sessions of oxygen treatment, not over optimistic of it working, but there does not seem to be any effective treatment for radiation damage, only management of the side effects.

For my moaning subject I will pick hospital gowns, mine only had a tie trap on one side and I got fed up of seeing men's bare backsides hanging out of untied gowns.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 28 Mar 2018 at 21:00

So sorry Chris really I am. It’s an utter credit to you as a man what you have squared up to. You’ve never given up and I doubt you ever will but we genuinely feel so sorry for all you’ve been through. Strength to you both from us both

User
Posted 28 Mar 2018 at 21:33

So sorry to read your latest update Chris.

I'm sure you'll deal with it all in your usual phlegmatic manner.

Good luck and Best Wishes

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 28 Mar 2018 at 23:01

Chris what an awful time you continue to have. I just hope some kind of doable procedure can give you some respite. Thinking of you,mate.

User
Posted 28 Mar 2018 at 23:24

I thought the NHS had done loads of work around respect and dignity? Apparently, the newsletter about patient bums hasn’t made it as far as the Christie :-/

A terrible choice for you to make but I think you have a real trust and confidence in your surgeon who will guide you in the right direction. Did you ask though, if you choose SPC now does that completely rule out bladder removal in the mid to far future?

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 29 Mar 2018 at 11:36
Sorry to read this Chris. As others have said you have dealt with issues as they come along.

I really admire how you have done that.

Hoping you can get a workable solution to this.

Wishing you all the best, Ian.

Ido4

User
Posted 29 Mar 2018 at 12:58
Thanks for the support guys.

Lyn

I think it is the older male patients who need the newsletter, preferably pinned to the back of their gowns. The staff are very good at the modesty and privacy procedures,saying "knock knock" and always asking before entering closed curtains etc and very quick to cover up the elderly gentleman's exposed bits when thet get out of bed or come out of the bathrooms etc.

As regards the SPC if you mean am I aware a long term catheter can cause bladder cancer then yes I am. Having a urostomy or a SPC still means messing around draining bags etc. My new normal is having a suprapubic and I can cope with it. Going through another major op and with my luck having possible complications isn't a risk I want to take at the moment. It is a pity there is not a reasonably priced decent incontinence system that does not involve clamps or gluing things to my penis.

Sandra not sure about phlegmatic, I have my ups and downs and some very dark days. Just coming up to the fourth anniversary of my surgery and it take its toll. In my bay at hospitial there were 4 beds the other three guys were all in a worse situation than me.

When I started my journey nearly four and a half years ago there was talk of a vaccine for PCa, within 5 years, will it happen this year ?

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 29 Mar 2018 at 14:36

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Thanks for the support guys.

Lyn

I think it is the older male patients who need the newsletter, preferably pinned to the back of their gowns.

 

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"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 29 Mar 2018 at 14:54

Sorry no, I wasn't thinking about bladder cancer down the line - I was just thinking that if you choose SPC now and then can't manage it when you are older, would you be able to have the bladder removed? In other words, you can't choose option B and then revert to option A but could you go with option A and still have option B if you needed it?

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 29 Mar 2018 at 19:29

Bloody hell Chris....what a decision. As others have said you have had it tough but you continue to face up to the issues with dignity

Stay strong mate

Bri

User
Posted 30 Mar 2018 at 18:47

Hi Chris,

Blimey. What to say? All along, you have been just amazing, stoic, strong, taking each new hurdle in your stride. Much respect.

As for people being worse off than you? There will always be people worse off and better off. Mind you I think there are probably fewer people in the latter category? Anyway, it does not detract from your situation.

Make your best choice, and go for it. Your luck has to change some time!

atb to you and D.

dave


All we can do - is do all that we can.

So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)

I am the statistic.

User
Posted 28 Apr 2018 at 08:17
Four years on

Well 4 years ago today I had surgery to remove my cancerous prostate.

Congratulations to those who are well on the road to full remission.

Commiserations to those who are still battling with this awful disease or its adverse effects and thanks to all the loved ones who have supported thier men during thier journeys.

Condolences to the loved ones of the men who sadly did not make it.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 28 Apr 2018 at 08:40
Hi Chris

Thank you for sharing your story over this time as the information and advice you share has been and will continue to be appreciated by many on this site.

Very best wishes to you.

Kevan

User
Posted 28 Apr 2018 at 09:40
Thanks for this message Chris. It sums things up nicely.

Best wishes to you, Ian.

Ido4

User
Posted 28 Apr 2018 at 11:33

Three years mid June for me and it’s far from over. I guess it will only get worse. I can’t think of many men who have had it tougher than you Chris. You’ve been amazing and strong

 
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