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Posted 17 Sep 2019 at 12:09

Just to say I am thinking of you all and understand your dilemma . If you feel the hospice is the right thing then don’t feel bad Allison we can all only make a decision when we are faced with it . John is not in the position to make that decision for himself but I suspect if he was he would want to make things as easy as possible on those he loves .

BFN

Julie XXX

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
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Posted 18 Sep 2019 at 18:33

Hi everyone

Well he didn’t go to the hospice, the ambulance came and between us we decided that there was a drastic risk that he wouldn’t make it and would die in the ambulance. So we are still at home, dreadful times at the moment, he has reached the awful rattle stage and with hiccups adding to the distressing sounds and actual discomfort, things are pretty dreadful. The nurses thought that he would pass away last night due to his breathing pattern but he didn’t. I don’t think I had any idea of how disturbing the rattle would be, he hasn’t eaten for nearly a week now or drunk anything for a few days (no particular problem, it hasn’t been possible and swallowing reflex is gone, hence the rattle). 

The thing I have learnt about being at home is this, you cannot rely on the local staff to come when you need them, not their fault, the district nurses are over stretched. The Carers here have been fantastic but as much as we wanted John to be at home the nursing would have been more responsive in the hospice. I did not realise that the syringe driver would always be 24 hours behind the drug curve. The doses are upped every 24 hours to account for the stat doses, which means that you always have a background of drugs in your system (good) but it’s never enough and we have to call the nurses out roughly four times a day. And we wait and wait in an increasingly distraught state for the nurses to come. Everyone involved does their utmost, but it’s not enough for this aspect of it all. On the other hand, being at home means that we can be here all the time and have access to our things and John is in familiar surroundings, even if he is not aware any more. 

I really want to say that we are ready for our wonderful man to leave us but I’m not entirely sure that John is quite ready to go. We have told him it is ok to go, that was not nice and the girls were breaking their hearts, I know he can hear us but despite having the majority of the signs of departing, he is still here.

 

love Allison xxxx

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Posted 18 Sep 2019 at 19:00
I can imagine just how distressing this is for you Alison having seen it first hand in the care home I worked in. Simply awful and my heart goes out to you all. I get that it’s good to be in your own home , but at the same time you are cut off from care , meds and a bit of a breather once in a while. Sending love and strength as ever and thinking of you.
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Posted 18 Sep 2019 at 19:12
I am so sorry, that was never my experience of caring for someone at home; the district nurses and / or GP came regularly through the day, the drugs were there and were increased when needed. The postcode lottery strikes again.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 18 Sep 2019 at 19:36

Dear Allison,

Sending you the biggest, warmest hug ever.

I only wish I could do it in person.

 

It's been a while since I was last with you and John, and all the memories of our meetings are such happy ones, so knowing how terrible things are now has me choking back the tears.

 

You're both in our thoughts and prayers, we can't possibly understand what you're both going through now, and we can only imagine your pain.

 

All our love to you both,

 

George and Lynn

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Posted 18 Sep 2019 at 20:50

Allison

Thinking of you both.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 18 Sep 2019 at 21:07

Allison, my heart goes out to you. Care in the community should be better than this.  

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Posted 18 Sep 2019 at 21:42

I am so sad for you. I wish you and your family peace and comfort and for your dear husband to be free of distress. Thinking of you all.

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Posted 18 Sep 2019 at 22:40

Oh Allison , my heart is breaking for you and your family it’s like a continuing nightmare and I can feel how stressed and terrified you are .

in the last 48hrs with Trevor I just wanted him to let go but like John he fought until his last breath . Looking back and with what you are going through I am glad he was in the hospital although I would have preferred a hospice .

i can truly imagine how much stress you are under with inadequate care ( not there fault ) because of under staffing but it all makes such a horrendous time even worse for you all .

please know I am thinking of you all and wish only that the next phase is as peaceful as possible.

BFN

Julie XXX

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
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Posted 19 Sep 2019 at 09:49

We passed a quiet night and John is peaceful at last, his breathing is shallow but regular and he is warm. It is a more comfortable situation for all of us. The end cannot be far away but his strength is legendary. 

love to you all and thank you for the kindness, I can't tell you how much it means, though I know how hard it is to write anything.

Allison xxx

 

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Posted 19 Sep 2019 at 19:14
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Posted 20 Sep 2019 at 09:09

Thinking of you all, Allison. I know how hard it is, but am so relieved to hear John is more peaceful. Remember John can still hear and feel the love around him, and in time this will bring comfort and strength to you all.  Love Janet, xx

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Posted 20 Sep 2019 at 12:38

It is such a difficult time for all involved. We experienced this only a matter of weeks ago and reading your posts is so familiar. My heart breaks every day and had done from long before my daddy left us so I know how you and your family are feeling. Such a distressing time. All you can hope for is the strength to get by and the peacefulness your husband so deserves. They go through so much towards the end and its extremely hard to watch. I feel your pain completely and wish it could be taken away from you all. 

My thoughts are with you. 

Miffy
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Posted 20 Sep 2019 at 16:27
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Posted 22 Sep 2019 at 00:18

My beloved John died tonight at 8.20pm. To say the journey was traumatic is to say the least. We are still waiting for someone to certify the death before we can contact the undertakers. The final days were awful and last 24 hours were beyond belief, he developed pneumonia and we ended up having to put him into the recovery position to drain the vile liquid from his throat and chest. John was a tough cookie and didn’t give in and so the passage from this world was drawn out and upsetting for all concerned. My heart is broken.

love Allison 

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Posted 22 Sep 2019 at 00:39

Oh Allison ,

my heart goes out to you and John and your lovely family, Trevor also passed from pneumonia and so I understand how awful that end can be .

your man was so strong and has fought so hard to stay and be with you all and although this has made his passing so long and and stressful for all of you it is a testament to his strength. Not immediately and certainly not in the near future but in time to come once you have all started to heal from this you will be proud of how much he wanted to stay with you all and how strong he was . 

My heart is breaking for all of you but as I have recently said to someone else , life in the future will be OK I promise it doesn’t seem like this at the  moment But it will be ok .

lots of love 

BFN 

Julie XXX

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
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Posted 22 Sep 2019 at 01:24

Even when we know it is coming, and that it is by far the best thing for our loved ones, this hits you like nothing else can, doesn't it, Allison.  I am so sorry to hear your news, and send condolences to you, and your family.

Like Julie, those of us who have been through it know a little of what you have been through, and can understand how you must be feeling. But everyone's path to this stage is different, and indeed different going on from here.  You have shown incredible strength and love over the years since diagnosis, and particularly in these last months and years.  Julie (who in my eyes is the font of all wisdom) also gives good advice - there is a path forwards in time.  I was worried that my lasting memories would be just of that last stage, but in time the better memories come forward again.  I hope that you and the family can share all those wonderful memories together soon.  Take up any offers of support now, and get as much rest as you can. 

Sending love across the oceans, Teacups

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Posted 22 Sep 2019 at 06:27

So very sorry to hear about John passing . He is at peace now and this damn cancer can't hurt him anymore.

My sincerest condolences to you all and hope you can find time for some rest over the coming days. I know how mentally and physically draining it all is. It feels like a relief sometimes when it actually happens.You just want their suffering ( and your own) to end.

Love and best wishes

Ann x

 

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Posted 22 Sep 2019 at 06:45

So sorry to hear your news. Please accept my sincere condolences. Remember that there are lots of us here any time you need a chat.

Phil

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Posted 22 Sep 2019 at 07:19

I’m so sorry to hear about John. My thoughts are with you and your family.

i hope that I can be as strong as you have been when the time comes. You have been an inspiration to us all. 

Take care of yourself now Allison. 

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