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Posted 17 Nov 2023 at 16:02

My husband 68 was given the news this week that he has localised PC G7 although in complete shock as suffered no symptoms at all apart from PSA done in routine test of 6.8 ( previous one in 2018 4.5) , he was told the treatment options which he got his head around to then be told that first he has to have a PET scan so he is now spiralling thinking the worst and the waiting is cruel . I don’t really know why I’m writing but we are so scared I know we aren’t the only people going through this but we have no family it’s me and him against the world and are absolutely terrified that it’s somewhere else.

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Posted 17 Nov 2023 at 19:03

Well it may have been you and him against the world, but now you've called on our little army of PCUK members you are no longer alone. You are at the worst part of this journey, with very little idea of what is going on. It gets a lot easier once you have a bit more knowledge of your particular case, and prostate cancer in general.

We've all been where you are now, and came out the other side. Though no one can be sure, and PSA is a very unreliable indicator, you OH doesn't seem to have an aggressive form of the disease. An additional scan to check for spread is very common immediately after diagnosis, it doesn't mean they think it has spread it is just standard practice. A PET scan is quite sophisticated compared to the old nuclear bone scan, it sounds like your hospital has a budget to use up, before Christmas.

Get back to us with any questions.

Dave

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Posted 17 Nov 2023 at 19:51

Hi Neet,
Dave and Adrian are right in what they say. You are at the worst stage of this journey where you don’t quite know where this so called ‘journey’ is going to take you. We ALL go through the ‘terrified’ phase. It does get easier when you know what’s ahead of you and you can concentrate on getting yourself prepared for whatever treatment is ahead. I was terrified when I was told I would need a nuclear bone scan, I didn’t even have a clue what that was! But it showed no sign of spread and this was a huge relief to me and my wife. It’s good that you’re husband is getting PET scan as they seem to be the best way to detect if there is any spread.

Hopefully you will have a range of treatments available if needed and then comes the next decision you have to make.

And please don’t think it’s just you and hubby against the world….there is so much support out there if you look for it. Start by calling the specialist nurses on PCUK, they are wonderful. Join a support group, I really found joining my local Maggies Grouo helped me come to terms with my PCa.  Contact your CNS for help too.
And if you’re really struggling with anxiety go and see your GP and get some help.

All the best,

Derek

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Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 09:49

Hi It is very hard to get your head around the idea that you have got pc and i think you will find as we all did at the time it seems that everything has slowed down waiting for the next test.You will get great support from everybody on here and will answer all your questions as they did with me when i was diagnosed in 2016 with G7.

I took the brachytherapy route and had very good treatment from all the specialists through my treatment.

I am 7 years on and in remission and signed off, you can click on my avatar to see my journey if it helps but i am sure there are many more members on here that will also help.

Regards John.

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Posted 17 Nov 2023 at 20:18

Hi Neet,

Sorry that you find yourself here...

As others have said, it's good news that they've offered a PET scan.  It will help to clarify the treatment options that are most appropriate to your OH's needs.  It shows that they are being very thorough.  It sounds likehe is in good hands.

If you can, it would be good to try to distract yourselves with pleasant activities during this agonising waiting period.

Best wishes,

JedSee. 

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 12:08

So sorry you’re terrified, I am too. Made worse for us by the delays in getting RT started due to NHS error  it’s causing dreadful anxiety especially the poor communication. 

 

. All I can suggest is keep busy, and healthy and take each day at a time. Also to get comfort from the success stories on this forum. Best wishes to you both. 

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Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 13:48

I feel for you Neet, all of us on here know exactly what you’re going through as we’ve all been there. My wife’s sister died suddenly just before I was diagnosed and the combination started my anxiety. Then when I started HT the anxiety got to the stage where I just couldn’t function. After reading a few posts on here I went to my GP and was prescribed Sertraline which has been a great help.

It sounds as though you have a very good, strong bond with each and you WILL get through this. You say you are very private people…I thought that too and didn’t want to talk about it but eventually(after much persuasion by my wife!) she talked me into us going along together to our local Maggies Centre for a chat with one of their specialists. And that transformed the way I feel about the disease and helped me come to terms with it.  I go along regularly to group meetings now and always come away feeling better. Not all Maggies are as good as mine I know, but looking around for a local support group might be very good for you both.

Derek

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Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 13:49
I know it doesn't help being told not to panic because it's a natural reaction to what sounds like horrendous news. But you need to try and put it into perspective.

Prostate Cancer will affect 12% of men however as a cancer, it is one of the most curable, and in cases where it isn't, it's extremely treatable. In fact most men with die WITH prostate cancer, NOT because of it.

The process of testing, biopsies and scans is designed to inform your specialist of what state it is in so that they can recommend the best and most effective treatments.

It may be a combination of drugs and radiotherapy or an operation to remove the prostate completely. I had the latter and panicked beforehand but now, 6 months later, I look back on it as way less eventful than I ever anticipated.

There will be some side effects, some sort of incontinence and erectile disfunction - neither will kill you and both have solutions that can make them less of an issue. Living with them is just something that you (both) just get on with and enjoy the rest of your, very likely, long lives.

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Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 13:52

Turkey2222, my RT was delayed because of poor communication between health boards. I ended up on HT for 9 months before starting RT. Not ideal maybe but my PSA kept falling and was 0.9 at the start of RT which the Onco was happy with because they like it to be less than 1.

 

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Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 18:10

18 months since my diagnosis.

Yeah it's horrible when you are in limbo land waiting for results. Once you get a treatment plan in place you start to feel in a better place. Good that they are giving you a PET scan, at least you are getting the full diagnostics.

Your PSA level is an unreliable indicator of the disease progress however on balance I would rather have a lower level, no guarantees but chances are you are unlikely to be advanced.

My PSA at diagnosis 8.75

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 20:10

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
It's surprising (to me) that RT was on the table. After the biopsy, I was offered AS (not recommended due to G7), Brachytherapy or RARP (robot prostatectomy) and depending on the results of that then RT was available as a salvage therapy.
I chose RARP as I wanted the bugger out of me asap - some refer to it as the mothership which is probably true whilst the cancer is fully contained.

So just surprised that they offered RT at this stage as it is usually only offered when RARP or Brachy is off the table.

My RARP was a couple of weeks ago, and I was offered either surgery or RT. The medics reckoned that the outcome would be the same either way. I think the treatments offered depend on their estimation of where the cancer is., how advanced it is, and presumably the age of the patient. 

User
Posted 19 Nov 2023 at 01:35

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
So just surprised that they offered RT at this stage as it is usually only offered when RARP or Brachy is off the table.

 

This isn't correct. For a man with a run-of-the-mill curable PCa and no additional health conditions, RP, EBRT, brachy and brachy/EBRT combo will all usually be suitable. Sometimes age affects the recommendation - an older man may be encouraged to have RT rather than RP - but that is certainly not always the case.  

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 19 Nov 2023 at 01:36

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
It's surprising (to me) that RT was on the table. After the biopsy, I was offered AS (not recommended due to G7), Brachytherapy or RARP (robot prostatectomy) and depending on the results of that then RT was available as a salvage therapy.
I chose RARP as I wanted the bugger out of me asap - some refer to it as the mothership which is probably true whilst the cancer is fully contained.

So just surprised that they offered RT at this stage as it is usually only offered when RARP or Brachy is off the table.

 

is this right? My husband was offered RARP, RT or AS for Gleason 6. He’s chosen RT but is he wrong to do so, and putting himself at a disadvantage?

No, Steve is mistaken Turkey - don't worry! 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 19 Nov 2023 at 20:57
Sorry if I confused you - my experience is based purely on my conversation with my urologist and was likely based around my situation. I think someone previously mentioned that urologists were more likely to recommend RARP and oncologists are more likely to recommend RT - I'd forgotten about that conversation/thread so again, my apologies :)
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Posted 17 Nov 2023 at 18:56

Hi, 

It is natural to be frightened when you or a loved one are diagnosed with prostate cancer. My only advice is take and deal with things one step at a time.

It's a sad to see you here, but it's the right place to be to help you cope with what you've been confronted with. Folk here will do their best to guide and support you.

Adrian

Edited by member 17 Nov 2023 at 19:04  | Reason: Typo

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Posted 17 Nov 2023 at 19:03

Well it may have been you and him against the world, but now you've called on our little army of PCUK members you are no longer alone. You are at the worst part of this journey, with very little idea of what is going on. It gets a lot easier once you have a bit more knowledge of your particular case, and prostate cancer in general.

We've all been where you are now, and came out the other side. Though no one can be sure, and PSA is a very unreliable indicator, you OH doesn't seem to have an aggressive form of the disease. An additional scan to check for spread is very common immediately after diagnosis, it doesn't mean they think it has spread it is just standard practice. A PET scan is quite sophisticated compared to the old nuclear bone scan, it sounds like your hospital has a budget to use up, before Christmas.

Get back to us with any questions.

Dave

User
Posted 17 Nov 2023 at 19:51

Hi Neet,
Dave and Adrian are right in what they say. You are at the worst stage of this journey where you don’t quite know where this so called ‘journey’ is going to take you. We ALL go through the ‘terrified’ phase. It does get easier when you know what’s ahead of you and you can concentrate on getting yourself prepared for whatever treatment is ahead. I was terrified when I was told I would need a nuclear bone scan, I didn’t even have a clue what that was! But it showed no sign of spread and this was a huge relief to me and my wife. It’s good that you’re husband is getting PET scan as they seem to be the best way to detect if there is any spread.

Hopefully you will have a range of treatments available if needed and then comes the next decision you have to make.

And please don’t think it’s just you and hubby against the world….there is so much support out there if you look for it. Start by calling the specialist nurses on PCUK, they are wonderful. Join a support group, I really found joining my local Maggies Grouo helped me come to terms with my PCa.  Contact your CNS for help too.
And if you’re really struggling with anxiety go and see your GP and get some help.

All the best,

Derek

User
Posted 17 Nov 2023 at 20:18

Hi Neet,

Sorry that you find yourself here...

As others have said, it's good news that they've offered a PET scan.  It will help to clarify the treatment options that are most appropriate to your OH's needs.  It shows that they are being very thorough.  It sounds likehe is in good hands.

If you can, it would be good to try to distract yourselves with pleasant activities during this agonising waiting period.

Best wishes,

JedSee. 

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 09:49

Hi It is very hard to get your head around the idea that you have got pc and i think you will find as we all did at the time it seems that everything has slowed down waiting for the next test.You will get great support from everybody on here and will answer all your questions as they did with me when i was diagnosed in 2016 with G7.

I took the brachytherapy route and had very good treatment from all the specialists through my treatment.

I am 7 years on and in remission and signed off, you can click on my avatar to see my journey if it helps but i am sure there are many more members on here that will also help.

Regards John.

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 11:18

Thankyou for caring tbh I’m not coping we are so private we have no family to call on  he is my absolute world and I his,  to see him tormented ,scared and trying so hard to be positive for me is breaking my heart . This time 4 weeks ago we were cruising round the med enjoying life . I’m filled with hope that the signs are it hasn’t spread going by his scoring and general wellbeing and he is completely ready to go along with the treatment I’m just so scared he gets knocked back again. 

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 12:08

So sorry you’re terrified, I am too. Made worse for us by the delays in getting RT started due to NHS error  it’s causing dreadful anxiety especially the poor communication. 

 

. All I can suggest is keep busy, and healthy and take each day at a time. Also to get comfort from the success stories on this forum. Best wishes to you both. 

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 13:48

I feel for you Neet, all of us on here know exactly what you’re going through as we’ve all been there. My wife’s sister died suddenly just before I was diagnosed and the combination started my anxiety. Then when I started HT the anxiety got to the stage where I just couldn’t function. After reading a few posts on here I went to my GP and was prescribed Sertraline which has been a great help.

It sounds as though you have a very good, strong bond with each and you WILL get through this. You say you are very private people…I thought that too and didn’t want to talk about it but eventually(after much persuasion by my wife!) she talked me into us going along together to our local Maggies Centre for a chat with one of their specialists. And that transformed the way I feel about the disease and helped me come to terms with it.  I go along regularly to group meetings now and always come away feeling better. Not all Maggies are as good as mine I know, but looking around for a local support group might be very good for you both.

Derek

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 13:49
I know it doesn't help being told not to panic because it's a natural reaction to what sounds like horrendous news. But you need to try and put it into perspective.

Prostate Cancer will affect 12% of men however as a cancer, it is one of the most curable, and in cases where it isn't, it's extremely treatable. In fact most men with die WITH prostate cancer, NOT because of it.

The process of testing, biopsies and scans is designed to inform your specialist of what state it is in so that they can recommend the best and most effective treatments.

It may be a combination of drugs and radiotherapy or an operation to remove the prostate completely. I had the latter and panicked beforehand but now, 6 months later, I look back on it as way less eventful than I ever anticipated.

There will be some side effects, some sort of incontinence and erectile disfunction - neither will kill you and both have solutions that can make them less of an issue. Living with them is just something that you (both) just get on with and enjoy the rest of your, very likely, long lives.

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 13:52

Turkey2222, my RT was delayed because of poor communication between health boards. I ended up on HT for 9 months before starting RT. Not ideal maybe but my PSA kept falling and was 0.9 at the start of RT which the Onco was happy with because they like it to be less than 1.

 

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 14:22

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Turkey2222, my RT was delayed because of poor communication between health boards. I ended up on HT for 9 months before starting RT. Not ideal maybe but my PSA kept falling and was 0.9 at the start of RT which the Onco was happy with because they like it to be less than 1.

 

 

it’s so stressful! We were told to see surgeon and oncologist, read all the leaflets  then decide between AS robotic surgery or RT and let CNS know the choice. We did that considered the options and my husband rang saying RT please. We then find mistakenly they’d thought he’d chosen AS- that’s really not something he wants for a number of reasons despite G6. It’s been a case of calls and emails and keep being told he’s been re referred to oncology and hopefully get appt mid December. But why they don’t just give a date I have no idea.

 

Feeling scared for my husband and lost in the system. 😥

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 18:10

18 months since my diagnosis.

Yeah it's horrible when you are in limbo land waiting for results. Once you get a treatment plan in place you start to feel in a better place. Good that they are giving you a PET scan, at least you are getting the full diagnostics.

Your PSA level is an unreliable indicator of the disease progress however on balance I would rather have a lower level, no guarantees but chances are you are unlikely to be advanced.

My PSA at diagnosis 8.75

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 19:46
It's surprising (to me) that RT was on the table. After the biopsy, I was offered AS (not recommended due to G7), Brachytherapy or RARP (robot prostatectomy) and depending on the results of that then RT was available as a salvage therapy.

I chose RARP as I wanted the bugger out of me asap - some refer to it as the mothership which is probably true whilst the cancer is fully contained.

So just surprised that they offered RT at this stage as it is usually only offered when RARP or Brachy is off the table.

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 20:10

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
It's surprising (to me) that RT was on the table. After the biopsy, I was offered AS (not recommended due to G7), Brachytherapy or RARP (robot prostatectomy) and depending on the results of that then RT was available as a salvage therapy.
I chose RARP as I wanted the bugger out of me asap - some refer to it as the mothership which is probably true whilst the cancer is fully contained.

So just surprised that they offered RT at this stage as it is usually only offered when RARP or Brachy is off the table.

My RARP was a couple of weeks ago, and I was offered either surgery or RT. The medics reckoned that the outcome would be the same either way. I think the treatments offered depend on their estimation of where the cancer is., how advanced it is, and presumably the age of the patient. 

User
Posted 18 Nov 2023 at 22:50

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
It's surprising (to me) that RT was on the table. After the biopsy, I was offered AS (not recommended due to G7), Brachytherapy or RARP (robot prostatectomy) and depending on the results of that then RT was available as a salvage therapy.
I chose RARP as I wanted the bugger out of me asap - some refer to it as the mothership which is probably true whilst the cancer is fully contained.

So just surprised that they offered RT at this stage as it is usually only offered when RARP or Brachy is off the table.

 

is this right? My husband was offered RARP, RT or AS for Gleason 6. He’s chosen RT but is he wrong to do so, and putting himself at a disadvantage?

User
Posted 19 Nov 2023 at 01:35

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
So just surprised that they offered RT at this stage as it is usually only offered when RARP or Brachy is off the table.

 

This isn't correct. For a man with a run-of-the-mill curable PCa and no additional health conditions, RP, EBRT, brachy and brachy/EBRT combo will all usually be suitable. Sometimes age affects the recommendation - an older man may be encouraged to have RT rather than RP - but that is certainly not always the case.  

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 19 Nov 2023 at 01:36

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
It's surprising (to me) that RT was on the table. After the biopsy, I was offered AS (not recommended due to G7), Brachytherapy or RARP (robot prostatectomy) and depending on the results of that then RT was available as a salvage therapy.
I chose RARP as I wanted the bugger out of me asap - some refer to it as the mothership which is probably true whilst the cancer is fully contained.

So just surprised that they offered RT at this stage as it is usually only offered when RARP or Brachy is off the table.

 

is this right? My husband was offered RARP, RT or AS for Gleason 6. He’s chosen RT but is he wrong to do so, and putting himself at a disadvantage?

No, Steve is mistaken Turkey - don't worry! 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 19 Nov 2023 at 20:57
Sorry if I confused you - my experience is based purely on my conversation with my urologist and was likely based around my situation. I think someone previously mentioned that urologists were more likely to recommend RARP and oncologists are more likely to recommend RT - I'd forgotten about that conversation/thread so again, my apologies :)
 
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