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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 10:37

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
When you said you'd been spreading rock salt, I thought you were getting ready for the big snowfall the BBC keep banging on about. As it was 17 Deg here yesterday, I am inclined to think they may have got it wrong again 😂

Morning Ian. I hope you're well.

We get that scaremonging every year, dont we? 😁

I didn't used to enjoy gardening, but I love it now. It certainly does me good to get out in the fresh air and graft a bit. They say there's plenty of evidence that says gardening is good for your mental health. It's lovely to see the snowdrops, crocus and daffs out. Spring is definitely here. But you can guarantee  that  the day I turn the heating off, is when we'll get another beast from the east. I can definitely say that my garden has helped me over the past  3 years. It therapeutic for me.

As for the sleeping difficulties, they do continue, but seem to be getting a little better. Touch wood.

Edited by member 21 Feb 2024 at 10:43  | Reason: Additional text

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 12:43

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I would never consider going to a support group.

Well, chatting is the main purpose of local peer support groups.

Exactly what any one group does varies enormously, and you choose which activities you're interested in or not. This tends to change depending where you are in your treatment pathway or post-treatment. Before and during initial treatments, you are likely absorbing support experiences from the group. Some time after diagnosis and initial treatment, you may find you can usefully support newer members who have just been diagnosed based on your experiences and what you've learned along the way.

All do chatting.
Some also have WhatsApp and/or Facebook private groups for online chatting.
Some offer 1-2-1 support.
Some do presentations by clinicians.
Some do presentations which are nothing to do with prostate cancer, e.g. maybe local interest.
Some do pub evenings, coffee mornings, etc.
Some do walks (talk and walk).
Some offer exercise classes, complimentary therapies (massage, aromatherapy, acupuncture, meditation, etc).
Some do awareness events where you advise the public on getting checked.
Some run PSA testing events for the public.
Some are specific to some activity like cycling.
Some are specific for LGBTQ+, or black men, etc.
Some hospital ones are specific for their own patients (while other hospital ones are open to other patients).
Some are patients-only (particularly some hospital run ones), while others welcome partners and carers too.
Some are for partners only, and not the patient.
Some do fundraising for prostate cancer charities, or to buy equipment for their local hospital.

Everyone who comes along for an initial chat after being diagnosed says how wonderful the experience was, and they wish they'd come along earlier. We will usually chat with a new patient for typically 60-90 mins when they first approach us, which no clinician has time to do. We can go through things they should be considering, and what to ask their clinicians.

Also there are national and international support groups on Facebook, dedicated forums, or Zoom.
Some UK ones are specific to a particular treatment, such as Active Surveillance, Brachytherapy, or Advanced Prostate Cancer. (International groups will discuss protocols and treatments not available or applicable in the UK, because these are different in every country.)

Edited by member 21 Feb 2024 at 13:21  | Reason: Not specified

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 13:29

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I would never consider going to a support group.

Well, chatting is the main purpose of local peer support groups.

I appreciate that Andy. My brother is a member of a local support group, but they are not my cup of tea. I'm lucky and as yet haven't needed face to face support. I have however found this forum very supportive. You can pop in whenever you want and someone will invariably help you. They are many people who are particularly knowledgeable, including your good self and who've been a great help to me.

All I want here, is an forever open, 'sticky' conversation. where any posters, regulars or newbies could have a general chat. I can't explain it any better. I was a member of the Martin Lewis moneysavingexpert site, before he became a TV super star. He had over a hundred topic areas on particular financial matters.  But he also had one specific open thread for people to have a general chat about financial affairs. Which was well used. Like that site we have hundreds of conversations on specific cancer issues but not a place to have a chat about life in general.

I've seen so many threads on here, usually late at night or in the early hours, that are started by newcomers and never get replied to and unless you bump them they are lost in cyber space. If they were posted in the always open general chat conversation area, they would get responded to. It would also be a good place for regulars who work hard and put a lot of effort into helping people, to relax a bit and chill out. To discuss life in general rather than having to respond to specific cancer issues. Such an area may not be workable, it may not get used, but I think it would be good idea to give it a go.

Edited by member 21 Feb 2024 at 20:39  | Reason: Typo

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 14:07
There is absolutely no reason why this thread can't become that thing that you want Adrian - when Spurspark was still alive, we kept a thread going for a couple of years doing exactly as you have described. We don't even need the charity to make it a sticky - I have just saved it on my profile as a thread I am following and others can do the same.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 14:28

Cheers Lyn.

I was hoping you'd reply. I don't think I've done a very good job of explaining what I mean. I'm glad there was such a thread in existence. I've never seen it.  If I wanted to keep this thread alive would I just have to keep bumping it?

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 18:33

Only if people don't use it; hopefully they will...

 

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 18:41

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Only if people don't use it; hopefully they will...

Hi Nick,

Is it this week you're seeing your surgeon?

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 19:10
We used to have a thread on here, a bit like a pub quiz. Ask me any question you like and I will bet you that either I or my brother will know the answer.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 19:28

Your brother, being Mr Google? I used to love pub quizzes but too many people going to the loo, coming back and miraculously 'remembering' the answers,  spoilt it.😁

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 21:46
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Hi Nick,

Is it this week you're seeing your surgeon?

Hi Adrian, yes, it was yesterday thank you for asking 😀 (you have a good memory!).

It was all okay -ish! I thought I'd been told to choose between RALP or HT and  RT.

I'd weighed things up and I chose RALP, but...

When I saw the Surgeon he told me I was too porky for RALP and that, and other health issues (heart attack 12 years ago and pulmonary embolism a year ago), also meant that HT & RT was the way to go. So he's started the ball rolling for the HT. 

It's not a massive problem to me, and I do trust him, but I had sort of got my head around the side effects to be expected from prostatectomy, rather than the ones from HT/RT. I also liked the idea that the PSA tests would be reassuringly low if my prostate was gone.

Thinking back, the person who told me my results and itemised the choices, did mention that BMI would be an issue, but I thought that was in relation to Brachytherapy as that was the last treatment type she'd mentioned.

Anyway, I am pleased that Dennis (my cancer - named after a particularly nasty tw*t I had the misfortune to meet at school (with apologies to any other Dennises on here)), is T2 N0 M0.

So onwards and upwards!!

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Posted 21 Feb 2024 at 22:19

Love the idea of naming the cancer.😁

I might start a light hearted thread on it. I'd think I'd call mine Adolf because he's wicked and damn hard to get rid of.

It was touch and go if I could have surgery due to two blocked coronary arteries but eventually they said I was fit enough. I got through the op with no problems. But two months later had a minor heart attack and ended up in hospital for a couple of weeks. I'm okay now, touch wood. 

Edited by member 21 Feb 2024 at 22:21  | Reason: Spelling

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Posted 22 Feb 2024 at 00:07
I don't think my brother would cheat
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 22 Feb 2024 at 08:00

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Only if people don't use it; hopefully they will.

Well it looks like there are a core bunch of us on here already who support this idea, so let's keep this thread moving on up ( I think there's a song there.....)

Adrian - I think you've achieved your aim mate 👍

Ian.

 

User
Posted 22 Feb 2024 at 08:02

Need a name for this pub now then.

Proctologists Arms?

Hand 'N' Glove?

User
Posted 22 Feb 2024 at 11:29

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Need a name for this pub now then.

Proctologists Arms?

Hand 'N' Glove?

Proctologists finger?

User
Posted 23 Feb 2024 at 09:48

Hooray, I've managed to string together a couple of decent nights kip! I feel like a new man.

I'm watching my ten year old grandson play footy tomorrow. He's goalie for the local towns under 10's team. Kick off's at dinner time, which suits me as the chippy's just down the road. Can't beat spectating and eating fish and chips at the same time.

Then it's the rugby 6 nations, brilliant! Will be having a few bevvies at home and may manage a bit of gardening. 

Doing a huge braised steak casserole on Sunday, my favourite.

Life is so much better when you're not knackered.

As you've probably gathered I'm a man of simple pleasures.😁

Sorry for the couple of deleted posts on here, they were my responses to a post from another that vanished into cyber space and no longer made sense. 

Anyone else got any thrilling plans for the weekend?

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Posted 23 Feb 2024 at 11:53

I shall be watching the rugby, armed with a few cold ones! Not too sure how the Calcutta Cup is going to go this year mind.....

I could do with giving the garden some attention, but with all this bloody rain it is way too waterlogged to get out there really. Other than that I will be shovelling some s**t at the stables, which seems to have become my job at weekends when I am available. Add in a couple of dog walks and that is about it!

That's about as exciting as my weekends get these days 😂

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Posted 23 Feb 2024 at 12:27

Hi Ian, I think the bookies have got the Scots favourites. Should be a good game.

Have you got horses? My daughters got one.

Do you remember when the old barbers used to say. "Anything for the weekend sir?" Meaning johnies.😄

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Posted 23 Feb 2024 at 12:53

Hello mate

I think the Scots might do it, unless we up our game from the last couple of narrow scrapes!

Just the one horse thankfully. My wife rides her, but I get to muck out the stable at weekends. To be fair, I quite enjoy being up there. Great for de-stressing after a week at work. In fact, after a week dealing with idiots, I am happy to just be around my labrador, my horse and my grandkids.

I can barely remember the days when I still needed to visit the barber! but yes, that was an amusing question at the end of the trim. Perhaps a French Tickler if it was a special weekend 😬

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Posted 23 Feb 2024 at 16:06

Hi,

Nothing too thrilling for me this weekend. Glad to report that my issues with having the "trots" immediately following the end of my RT appear to have subsided (for now). I'm now back out walking the dogs up and down the hill. I'll be driving down to Lincoln tomorrow to pick up son no 1 from Uni, he's coming home for his "reading week". Then in the afternoon, I'll be keeping tabs on the mighty Bantams who are playing away at Barrow, hoping for a rare win. Then it'll be my Saturday night curry with some beers whilst watching the Saturday evening footy on telly. Unfortunately, I find rugby a hard watch, I really want to England to win but I expect Scotland will (England more likely to win if I don't watch than if I do). The scoring in rugby does my head in with seemingly easy 3 points being given for the slightest of errors (errors that non-players don't understand), for me rugby would be better if there was more emphasis on scoring tries. 

I really envy you having a grandson playing footy, I would absolutely love that. Unfortunately, I couldn't get either of my two boys interested in football, playing or watching. Instead, they became swimmers and I lost countless hours of my life at swimming pools for their training and racing, including early mornings - nightmare! (advice for any new dads or grandads, be careful when you take the kids for swim, get them to swim yes, but too much and you might end up living there). 

All the ground saturated and boggy around here too. It'll be a couple of weeks before I dust off the old lawn moor and loppers.

Have a good weekend

Spongebob.

 
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