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Posted 22 Aug 2024 at 22:09

Cheers Adrian

Yup, the incontinence is pretty awful at the minute. Had a review call with the prof today though, and he says its very early days, especially as they sent me home with a UTI which took two weeks of antibiotics to shift!

I think the beer tray plate was a great idea. I bet you got some envious looks as they all tucked in to their half sandwich. I bet your mate would have found that funny too!

Kev - Sarries? really? πŸ˜‚ To be fair they're a great side, and I've had some laughs with their fans over the years, including in the eel pie in Twickenham after this years final πŸ‘

Phil - you must be posh, eating in the clubhouse. I'm normally at the curry stall in the village before a game. Good luck with going alcohol free. I did it over 3 years ago. It was only supposed to be for 12 weeks, but I felt so good I never went back!

It is funny isn't it how you feel after the operation. Initial shock at how fast it had progressed, then relief that he said he got it all out, then the realisation that until they test my PSA in 4 weeks I wont really know if it worked. Then of course there's the old "will it come back" question. With T3a there's more chance I will end up having more treatment at some point I suppose, but who knows.

For now, I will keep reminding myself that you have to be alive to pee in your pants 😬

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Posted 23 Aug 2024 at 09:34

Morning Chaps, 

A lot of recent talk about rugby on here, it’s not a game that I remember with much fondness. Back in the day it was of a different variety where I’m from, Bradford Northern and Eddie Waring’s ‘Up and Unders’. Northern (now the Bulls) play up at Odsal stadium which is a huge big hole dug out of a rubbish tip at the top of a hill. Visitors to Bradford pass it on there way in on the motorway, gives a taste of what to expect - ‘the motorway to nowhere!. Up at Odsal the climate is akin to that of Siberia, you need to dress up Nanook of the North to contemplate going to watch anything there and must remember to take some binoculars to be able to make out any action at the far end. Despite this Odsal holds the record attendance for a Rugby League game 102,000 back in 1954. My dad who was a copper back then always told me a story of him being up there on traffic duty at the time - an ‘old world’ nightmare, if there ever was one!

We had the misfortune to have to watch footy matches up there after the fire for a while. The rugby pitch was not only a quagmire, not really suited to tic-tac football but was also too short. Anyway the corners were rounded off because of the speedway track which meant that the pitch at each corner flag sloped upwards which proved handy for keeping the ball on the pitch when play got into the corners. It was a dismal place to watch football. You used to be able to get a welcome bag of fish  and chips from a chip van that was perched right at the top of the terracing. That was until Leeds fans decided to push the chip van over, for some reason best known only to themselves (they had a different idea of entertainment in those days, or maybe they were just bad losers).

When I went to Uni in Leicester I found out about the other rugby. I was amazed, they were nuts about rugby in Leicester with football taking a firm backseat there. The Tigers. Sure enough the Uni was full of lads from places like Cambridge, Northampton, Exeter and Rugby was 2nd nature to them. Also of course goes without saying the Welsh lads were the same. Even our Geordie friends played, yes right up there in the Norrh East. It seemed that everyone knew how to play except for me. The thing is they all knew what position each played just by what size they were.

So it was then that they took one look at me and said ‘Second Row’. I quickly found that there is absolutely no glamour in that position, spending most of the match with my head wedged between buttocks and grabbing hold of the balls of others in front. I remember laying there on my back in the mud with umpteen 16 stone fellas on top of me taking a glance back hoping for reinforcements only to see a line of our guys just standing around in our half looking as casually nonchalant as a twitcher birdwatching. These guys as I found out were the ‘Back Row’, in clean shirts and clean shorts - they were waiting and waiting for their chance of glory. I didn’t reckon much to that!

Problem was that I really didn’t have a clue how to play. When I went to secondary school, it had just turned into a comprehensive school and one consequence was that all the rugby posts in the school had been taken down. One rugby pitch had been replaced with an ‘all weather’ pitch. Unfortunately there was nothing ‘all weather’ about it as it was like a sandy gravel surface. Nobby the caretaker wouldn’t let anyone go on it in any weather and it got really dry in the summer term most of it would blow away in the wind in a phenomenon known as the ’great all weather pitch sandstorm’. Anyway, our PE teachers were the classic lazy gits, for every double games lesson we had we would be sent out on cross country in all weathers whilst they sat there with their coffees. At the end of each lesson they would say ‘bring your boots next week’, so we would all cart in our boots only to find that it was still cross country.

It all meant that I left school not knowing how to play very much. I was able to play footy a bit because we played on the street at home. Actually, I could also play a bit of hockey because often when we got back from cross country, for the remaining 20 mins or so they would then send us out to play hockey- this was just hit and hope rather than learning how to play with some guidance. There was one week when it was really foggy, we got back from cross country and got the hockey sticks out, then when we’d finished, we went in for a shower and got changed. Then walking back up to school from the changing rooms, passing one of the goals we found a lad still standing there in goals πŸ˜€. It was that foggy he didn’t know it had finished 15 mins since. Dozy or what? I won’t say his name in case he’s on here 😬.

It was a certainly a different time in the old days. In a different lifetime I was a teacher, in fact a Geography teacher (I was rubbish at that aswell 😬). When I did teacher training I used to volunteer to help the PE teacher at this school next to Uni. One day we were ‘teaching’ the kids Rugby, the PE teacher on one side and me on the other, anyway the lads passed me the ball and I just hoofed the biggest ‘Up and Under’ they will have ever seen. They all just stared at me, I could tell by their exasperated looks that I’d done something wrong. The PE teacher added to my embarrassment by telling the kids not to worry about me as I didn’t quite know how to play. I have a lot of tales that I could tell from my brief teaching career. I did my teacher training in Norwich at UEA, the kids there have a particularly rustic accent and is difficult to interpret at the best of times- as it turned out I got on just fine with them as they couldn’t understand my Bradford accent either making it an interesting experience.

Oops sorry for the reminiscing rambling, I’m just waiting for the family to get up, we’re going to go on a family walk over to Bolton Abbey and back in what appears to be gale force wind ( which incidentally is giving my new garden planter nosey neighbour preventing screen a test 😳). 

I’ve been thinking about picking up the gauntlet and cracking open a bottle of the vintage gooseberry, not sure I can do it. I think I would rather have a piece of Tutankamooon’s rice bread - a much safer prospect. I’ll think about it πŸ€”. 

Have a good weekend chaps 

Spongebob

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Posted 23 Aug 2024 at 10:43

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
 Then walking back up to school from the changing rooms, passing one of the goals we found a lad still standing there in goals πŸ˜€. It was that foggy he didn’t know it had finished 15 mins since. Dozy or what? I won’t say his name in case he’s on here 😬.

That reminds me of the football scene from Kes, when Billy Casper was in goal and Brian Glover was the PE teacher and nominated himself as Bobby Charlton. A superb film.

Spongebob I love your tales. πŸ‘ πŸ™‚

I'm still a very, very, slow texter. I only got a mobile phone 18 months ago when I went to hospital for my RARP, so that I could let the missus know how I got on. Now, I can't put the damn thing down! It would have taken me an hour to text your post.

Like your dad, I'm ex plod. One of my mates in the job, was a semi professional rugby league player. He always used to carry his gum shield in his tunic. He was a one man riot squad. Whenever we went to any pub punch ups, we'd put Les and his gum shield in first. Then we'd go in ten minutes later to pick up the pieces. He was a living legend. As if he wasn't formidable enough, they ended up putting him in the dog section! I still maintain he was more intimidating and dangerous than his snarling Alsatian. 😁

I hope you have a great day out. The gale will certainly blow away the cobwebs.

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Posted 23 Aug 2024 at 12:33

Hi guys. Great posts/stories. 

Both my secondary schools were comprehensives but one of them concentrated on Rugby and were renowned as being a rough team. Us leftovers were thrown a football and told to F off over there .

When I moved school at 13 I got a lot of trouble at the start due to the reputation of our Rugby team. So had to prove myself a few times. Ended up enjoying my time there until me and my little Bruv had to move back to our old school when I was already started 4th year. Couldn’t get my chosen options at CSE so ended up messing them up and had to retake them as GCEs at college.  πŸ€·‍♂️.

The PE teacher at the old school even shouted at me after I threw the Javelin ‘what’s the matter you got Polio or something ‘. Imagine that now 🀣. 

Back to Rugby. We had hospitality at Leicester once and so beforehand was mingling with injured players etc. I felt like such a midget until Austin Healey came over to chat. He’s a tiddler like me 🀣, but hard as nails, unlike me. 

We also have friends who had a box at the old Tottenham stadium, which was lovely but you can’t beat sitting outside with the crowd. But we also did hospitality things there with a meal etc. One day we sat having dinner before the game with Ossie Ardiles and Martin Chivers on our table. Ossie is so down to earth was magic talking to him. My missus said to me ‘who’s that’ I was ‘WHAT’… I have a great photo and us chatting with our wine glasses in our hands. I still can’t believe it 🀦‍♀️… 

Keep your stories going, I love hearing them. It really is like being in our local Pub just chewing the cud. 

Just remembered this. Being older than you guys I remember at one of my (4) primary schools no one had their own boots so you picked out of a box. They looked like walking boots with studs. No fancy boots then … and if they didn’t fit that was tough. Imagine the little cherubs now complaining about a little blister ! 

Cheers guys, my round is it ? 

Phil

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Posted 23 Aug 2024 at 12:53

Hi Phil.

I've just got into my real Club. I'm on my first pint of Mild. I've found it's easier on the bladder than bitter or lager. Plus you can have half a dozen and still feel cold sober.

I'm considering jacking in boozing. I went teetotal for 6 years. I'll have a few pints whilst I'm thinking it over.😁

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Posted 23 Aug 2024 at 13:11

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi Phil.

I'm considering jacking in boozing. I went teetotal for 6 years. I'll have a few pints whilst I'm thinking it over.😁

Needs plenty of thought 🀣 …! I do like a drop of mild. I worked in pubs since I was 8 and behind the bar at 14 so probably tried most tipples at some time. When I was 11/12 on Sunday after racking the bars I cleaned the Hall after Sat night mayhem and always started by making me and my little Oppo a snowball to start us off πŸ₯΄

Out tonight and I’ll drive so no booze. But I’ll get a bottle of low alcohol wine on the way. Hoping it’ll help me lose my chemo belly and be able to get into my old clothes again.. 

Also the chemo metal mouth made wine quite unpleasant. It’s only just easing off now so will look at ways to alleviate it at the next infusion. Frozen fruit is too cold for my teeth 😬… so maybe just chilled fruit. 

Cheers mateys 

Phil

 

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Posted 24 Aug 2024 at 09:03

When I checked in this morning. I thought 'Wow! There's been loads of activity over night.' There were 6 new posts all put on about 5 am. Everyone of them contained a quoted post where they'd added a gaming link to it. It's becoming increasingly common and increasingly irritating. 

Talking about irritating. During my three hour dinner time session in the Club yesterday. I had four pints of Mild. Urination was not a problem. I went for a wee three or four times. However as my wife was driving me home, a 15 minute journey, I stated getting a sharp pain down below and felt I needed a wee. When we got home I dashed to the loo, the pain got worse, but try as I might I was unable to pee. It took about 20 minutes before I could force a dribble of urine, then gradually over the next 15 mins I managed to pee normally.

This has happened 3 or 4 times before. I'm wondering if having a full bladder and holding back from peeing somehow locks the peeing mechanism making it difficult to go again when you need to. I never had this problem pre prostatectomy. Has anyone else had similar problems? 

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Posted 24 Aug 2024 at 10:28

Hi Adrian, 

The early bird gets the spam 😁

There was only one left by the time I logged in. 

I don't have a lot of experience of retention, I had some around four weeks after surgery which was probably down to debris. Occasionally I get it after sex, but nothing as you described. Could you be harbouring a urine infection, or a stricture?

Could be worth speaking to your urologist, maybe discuss self catheterisation?

Cheers, 

Kev.

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Posted 24 Aug 2024 at 11:54

Cheers Kev.

I've got an 18 month follow up consultation very soon. I'll mention it to them. 

They'll probably just blame the demon drink.

Edited by member 25 Aug 2024 at 08:54  | Reason: typo

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Posted 26 Aug 2024 at 13:29

Afternoon chaps,

A few weeks ago I went to my Mother-in-law’s wake. To break the ice, the chat turned to first jobs, and I was asked what mine was. Actually, I’ve had a good selection of jobs in my time but my very first one was as a Paperboy (if such a job still exists then we probably now have to call it a “Paperperson” or a “Paperthey”)πŸ“°πŸ“°. I did that for many years, it was certainly a commitment and hard work fitting it in around school and delivering in all weathers. In those days everyone who lived in the village would get a Bradford Telegraph & Argus, us paperboys would meet at the shop after school and wait for the papers to be dropped off for Arthur the Newsagent to count out the papers for each of our rounds, we’d have 60-70 papers each to deliver. Thursday’s were the heaviest days because Thursday was jobs and houses day in the T&A. Our hands and clothes would get covered in ink, much to my mum’s angst 😑.

People who have never delivered papers would naturally think that it was a doddle of a job. Well they would be wrong! One of the biggest problems would occasionally come to light as you got to the end of your round, and that would be when you find that you are one paper short or one paper over. Then you’d have to work out what had gone wrong, maybe delivered to someone who was on holiday or missed someone who has just got back from holiday. In either case you had to resolve it because if you went back to the shop to tell Arthur he would “go Ape!!!” and give you a right bollocking! (This is where there is an advantage to not shoving the paper all the way through just in case you have to try and retrieve one that you’d accidentally deliveredπŸ€”). Of course it could be that Arthur had miscounted the papers in the first place but he’d never admit to that. There was one occasion when I was 13 papers over! Which was quite obviously an Arthur mistake so I just dumped them all over the wall of the blocked up public urinals rather than taking them all back to the shop for an inquisition.  

Financially, it was hardly worth while doing the job anyway. I’d get something like 80 pence for a week but I would typically spend it all on sweets, crisps and bottles of pop 🍬🍾. No wonder I ended up with a mouthful of fillings.

You never forget your round, I can still remember all the houses on it even today. The rickety gates on some people’s drives, the dogs, cats and the many different types of letterboxes. My favourite type letter box was a vertical one placed at head height with a fairly lightly sprung flap. When delivering a paper to this type of letterbox you could place the paper in it, leaving approx. 6 inches hanging out, and then you could give it a right good old fashioned thwack which would send the paper flying right down the hallway. I always wondered what the customers used to think when they got home to find their paper lying half a mile down their hallway or even better imagine a grannie sat there listening to the wireless in her sitting room only to watch in amazement as the paper came flying across the room at sonic speed right above her head πŸ˜‚.

Then there was no 96, this house had a hip level letterbox, and without fail, every time I put the paper in this letterbox their dog 🐢would snatch the paper and shred it. I would be amazed if there was ever anything left of their paper to read in that house. Talking of dogs, I got bit twice, both on the knee cap whilst the paper bag saved me on a number of other occasions. Dogs that look menacing but not barking are the ones to avoid, whereas dogs barking were generally all talk and no bite.

I also had a cat 😺 hazard at no14, this one was a ground level letterbox and every so often their massive fat ginger cat would be flaked out having a snooze right in front of the letter box and it didn’t like to be disturbed. Fortunately, the worst it could do was a hiss and swipe with it’s claws.

No 8, was a run down old semi with an over grown garden of waist high grass and nettles, gate hanging off, paint peeling off the guttering, door and window frames. Sometimes the door would be open and a glimpse inside would reveal a bare floor covered in newspaper and very little furniture. There was also a very stale, decayed old whiff about the place. A little old scruffy lady lived there, and we were all scared stiff of her, reckoning that she was a witch. I would always dispatch her paper as quick as I could to avoid meeting her and having a spell cast on me.

Christmas time πŸŽ… was best because that’s when we would get tips. People were generally, remarkably generous and we would accumulate a fair old sum of money for Christmas. I learnt then to never be surprised by people and never to pre-judge because the most unlikely looking person would often give the most generous tip. Of course you would remember those houses that didn’t give anything. I remember knocking on the door at no 108 and saying the “Happy Christmas” greeting which as we all know, translated means “give me my deserved Christmas tip”, only for the woman who opened the door to cheerily say “Happy Christmas” back to me whilst slamming the door right in my face. Needless to say, for the rest of the year if it was wet outside their paper would accidentally get dropped in a puddle before posting it through their letterbox.   

Anyway, just thought I’d share my reminiscing πŸ˜€ whilst I contemplate doing a bit of housework😁 as it is typical Bank Holiday weather outside. Just this minute heard on the News about Sven – that’s so sad and upsetting, poor bloke, he didn’t get much notice did he 😒. Ah well...... best make the best of it while we can.

Cheers

Spongebob

 

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Posted 26 Aug 2024 at 14:39

Our village newsagent operated from premises which resembled a large garden shed. In the winter it was surrounded by huge puddles which made it look like an Ark. He used to put planks on bricks for customers to walk on and keep dry. He used to sell individual Woodbine fag's to school kids. He was a bit like Fagin.

One of the paper rounds was a real posh avenue about two miles long and many of houses had driveways that were nearly as long. I was employed by the large bully boy who had that round, he 'subcontacted" me. 

He'd ride there on his bike I'd walked behind and do all the delivering. The round took ages and he only paid me six old pence, a tanner! He's probably an entrepreneur now making a fortune exploiting workers.

 

 

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Posted 27 Aug 2024 at 09:44

Great stories guys, I think every boy did a paper round at some time. It was expected 🀣. Funny how you remember so much of it, even the house numbers. SpongeBob I suspect you really enjoyed it. Adrian, I’m thinking you were well and truly exploited there. But it’s what they are even doing now with delivery and I think even Uber. 

I was lucky enough to only do a round when one of my mates was away or ill. I hated it , it was hard work , meant early mornings and the pay was s***, and I got bitten by a dog once. I also tried a milk round . Oh god, so bloody early and hard work for a pittance. I even tried helping my Uncle on his grocery round but he’d frequently forget to pick me up… 

Me and my brother didn’t get pocket money so we needed these little jobs. 

As my Mum was a barmaid I worked as a pot boy from the age of 8. Was good fun and excellent pay. But I used to frequently fall in the skip as I was so little. Still remember my little legs sticking out the skip and climbing out stinking of beer. My Mum moved Pubs when I was about 10 and my job was much bigger. Racking up, emptying the skips, cleaning the Hall and toilets on a Sunday morning , and even the managers car if I had time. Hard work but the pay was excellent and I got asked by customers to do gardening as well so extra earnings. I had a younger kid helping me too so I was moving into management 🀣🀣. 
We also used to do ‘home work’ if you remember that? It could be anything from assembling biros to putting boxes together. I used to help my mates too who did coil winding which used to knacker your hands. 

I also served behind the bar of a really busy Pub in London for 3 weeks when I was 14. My M&D were relief managers for the brewery and we’d occasionally get asked if we wanted to go with them. Me and my brother were living with my Aunt and Uncle then so made a change. But I only did it twice.
Just before I left school I got a motorbike (we were allowed a 250 at 16 then) but wasn’t earning so when I started college I found a job in another Pub. Wasn’t ideal as I had to do the nasty shifts like Friday and Saturday nights. But had a crazy, magic year before I passed some exams 😳 and got an apprenticeship at Fords. Really burnt the candle at both ends .. met sone nice girls at college too πŸ˜‰ One of the barmaids had a young brother with learning difficulties and I agreed to look after him while I worked if it was an afternoon shift. Wasn’t a problem for me but she somehow felt obliged to try to repay me 😳 and it got a bit embarrassing as she squeezed past me at every opportunity.🀦‍♀️

Glad we had those opportunities and learnt to appreciate that most of us have to work hard to earn a living. It wasn’t told to us , we just saw that was how life was. 

Take care ,

Phil

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Posted 27 Aug 2024 at 11:55

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

... I'm wondering if having a full bladder and holding back from peeing somehow locks the peeing mechanism making it difficult to go again when you need to...

Yes it does, I was told this by my urologist when I had urinary retention which eventually led to the cancer diagnosis. There is a physics experiment called the two balloon experiment which counter intuitively proves a partially deflated balloon has higher pressure than a fully inflated balloon. This means it is easier generate pee pressure from a partially empty bladder than a full or in my case overextended one.

Dave

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Posted 27 Aug 2024 at 14:59

Thanks for that Dave. πŸ‘

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Posted 27 Aug 2024 at 15:33

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
As my Mum was a barmaid I worked as a pot boy from the age of 8. Was good fun and excellent pay. But I used to frequently fall in the skip as I was so little. Still remember my little legs sticking out the skip and climbing out stinking of beer. My Mum moved Pubs when I was about 10 and my job was much bigger. Racking up, emptying the skips, cleaning the Hall and toilets on a Sunday morning , and even the managers car if I had time.

You've been a grafter all your life Phil. No wonder you still like keeping busy.

I always wanted to end up doing a worthwhile career. A job that would help the community. A job that would make our society a better place to live in. An honest occupation, free from dishonesty, fear and prejudice.

But I joined the police instead. 😁

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Posted 27 Aug 2024 at 15:58

But I joined the police instead. 😁

I have the utmost respect for the police. What a thankless profession it is. I couldn’t imagine  even getting beyond first days training.

When I was 15 I went up to Stafford for an RAF induction test over 5 days. Well I ended up arguing with one of the interviewers and said I want to go home a day early. I didn’t go home , I got the train down to Plymouth to join my parents on holiday. They did still offer me radar technician job but I wanted to be the guy in charge of them all 🀣 What a dick I was. 
Was years later I realised they were testing me to see how I took orders and instructions from seniors. 🀦‍♀️. Not very well it turns out …

Phil

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Posted 28 Aug 2024 at 08:49

I'm a bit late to the paper round party.. been DIY-ing.

I had round number 9, Sunday was always a heavy lift because of all the Sunday supplements. The people with the smallest letter boxes always seemed to go for broadsheets 🀷🏻‍♂️

My earnings went towards my first motorbike. The old paper shop is now a cafe.

cheers. 

Kev.

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Posted 28 Aug 2024 at 10:32

Seems we all had part time jobs as kids. I loved to have nice clothes and Mod clothing was pretty expensive so was the only way to afford it. I know it’s harder for kids now but they do seem to feel entitled to have whatever they want now. 

What was your first bike Kev ?

I got a £20 Tiger Cub off a family friend when I was 15 and rode it up and down the sea wall  as we were only 100 Yds away. Soon replaced by a noisy 250 BSA Starfire with skimmed head etc . Which blew head gaskets about every 10 miles 🀣🀣

Phil

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Posted 28 Aug 2024 at 12:18

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

What was your first bike Kev ?

Mine was a Triang tricycle.

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Posted 28 Aug 2024 at 13:20

Hi Phil, 

My first bike was a suzuki A100, I had that a while and passed my test on it. My next bike was a suzuki GSX250, it was a really smooth runner, it had a counterbalance shaft so it felt like a four cylinder. Had a Z250 and a DT but in the end I got fed up with the cold and wet and switched to cars. I miss biking and would love to ride again but the roads these days are nuts!

My son has a CBR600, he passed his test in Gibraltar on a GSX600. He did a lot of riding around Spain. Last year he rode his CBR from Gibraltar up to Santander and came home on the ferry to Portsmouth. His wife is learning to ride too, think hers is a CBR125. I have to say, I'm envious. 

Cheers, 

Kev.

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