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Erecting the Erection - Medication

User
Posted 19 Feb 2016 at 20:06

Even with supposedly full nerve sparing none of the tablets work in the slightest at 8 months. Pump is fab for exercise daily but not the real thing at all when it comes to the business - but beggars can't be choosers. Injections showing real promise but dose problems. If I get it right it will be good. Sneak off to the loo at 7am , woo the wife at 7.15 , just get it on at 7.30 , then two lurchers and a child stampede in at 7.45 !! Damn it.
My pump came from imedicare.com. It is a somaerect and is good. With a spare set of rings cost my GP £200. But you should really get a demo. If the rings aren't fitted it's useless.


If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade
User
Posted 19 Feb 2016 at 20:24
Thanks again guys.

Another visit to the GP needs to be arranged.

Cheers
Sandy
User
Posted 19 Feb 2016 at 20:53

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


 


Hi Sandy,

I bought this one online from this company........they are VAT exempt.... It's a good quality product

Luther

http://www.pharmacy2u.co.uk/erecaid-esteem-manual-vat-exempt-p1.html



 


I stand corrected - I thought you could only buy this from overseas websites unless you had a prescription but apparently not. How shocking though that it is cheaper to the general public than to the GP practice! 


The ErecAid Esteem is what John has and seems to be the most popular among prescribing ED nurses and GPs - I would go with this Sanders if you can afford it! 


Note though that you don't have to buy the Erecaid lube - KY jelly might be cheaper at Tesco :-0 

Edited by member 19 Feb 2016 at 20:54  | Reason: Not specified

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 20:58

Hello folks
I test-drove the Viridal Duo 40mg injection today. This is the injectable form of Alprostadil which can also be in the form of gel ( Vitaros ) and Pellets ( Muse). Caverject is the biggest name for injections but has supply problems. Also , I was responding reliably well to 20mg Caverject but needed a higher dose. So my ED nurse and I went with this.
It is far far easier to use , with the syringe containing both the liquid and the powder , so no messing about with vials and 2 needles and " drawing-up " the solution.
My nurse suggested I go for 30mg and see what happens. Unfortunately I messed up the injection slightly ( my fault entirely - it can be awkward ) and only managed maybe 25 to 27 mg.
Very rapid results and an erection that cheered me to the very core I have to say. And a very useable one indeed with none of the vacuum pump issues. The injecting is not painful but I still had the painful throbbing ( though no worse for the higher dose ). Also it lasted maybe 2 hrs.
Anyway , that's enough detail , and despite all the other cr**p that this disease is bringing to us all , it made me happier than I've been in ages ( on the ED front ).
Much happier.
Chris


If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade
User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 21:05
Hi chris fantastic news 😊 hope you have shared this good news with your wife, so next is sorting out a child minder 😊 jx
User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 21:06

Hi Chris,

I don't think I have ever been happy to read about another man's erection? So you are a first! Hope you can achieve more and put them to good use mate?

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 21:26
I used the cavajet 20 mg lkast night for a second attempt. Last time had no real reaction but an aching bollock so not sure if I got it slightly wrong. Anyway this time round a better result but still not enough to really work. The downside for me has been 2 hours of discomfort afterwards but this time it lasted for over 3 hours!
I must say it was not pleasant but not sure if in time if it will improve?

Glad it worked for you Chris, just shows how very individual we all are in the same boat lol
User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 21:32

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


I would avoid buying a pump if you possibly can get it on prescription. The proper ones cost around £350 but are available free on the NHS in most CCG areas. The sex-toy kind that you get from Amazon or Ann Summers are nothing like the proper ones.



FFS.


Any pump may be better than no pump?  A vacuum clear may be better than no pump?  


"Es ist besser, schlecht zu fahren, als auch zu Fuß", as a friend of mine used to say to me.  


Broadly speaking, it translates to "It is better to drive badly, than walk well".  A German saying suggesting it is better to drive somewhere in a heap of a car than to walk somewhere in a splendid pair of shoes.


So to apply this to your situation.  It may be better to have a "nothing like the proper" "sex toy"/"pump" from Ann Summers, than no pump.  


And, unless someone has tried and tested all the pumps how can anyone say how they will perform?  If it were me and my penile health were at risk, I would invest the £30 or so.  I was prepared to buy a pump, £320, if my GP declined to offer me one on a script.  


We can all complain about the lack of resources from the NHS, how we should be getting X, Y and Z.  But you have the opportunity of a cheap fix on the Hi Street.  I know what I would do.  But, it's your bits.


dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 21:43

Hi Chris P
I think I used 5 with very hit and miss results , and then 3 on the run that were consistent but could obviously be better. I get throbbing pain and it's not nice but it's worth it for some poontang. Not sure about the aching nut though mate. Don't give up, today was worth the perseverance!!


If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade
User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 22:28
C & C

Take advice from your medical teams but an over the counter decongestant can neutralise the effects of muse and caverjet etc.

I have had mixed results with muse but apparently too much muse can prevent an erection, so I assume the same can be true of the other products.

For those not on treatments or not wanting to insert things into their bits try the following.

Google "flaccid intercourse" and go to the "making love is the best medicine" result and read the extract from the book. The only warning is, do it with the windows shut. If you get the technique right you will both enjoy yourself and you will understand about the windows. Chemicals are okay but I find the sensitivity of the penis is reduced.

Thanks Chris
User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 22:37

I'm gonna check this out Chris



Can't find it !

Edited by member 25 Feb 2016 at 22:43  | Reason: Not specified


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User
Posted 25 Feb 2016 at 23:27

CJ, fantastic news :-)

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 07:07
Chris

Link to page.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jsU3IsgiaO8C&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=flaccid+intercourse&source=bl&ots=wI9rQOFf0Z&sig=6DDBAO3LMS5Cmf66tgKF3c3zDlI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD-pj47JTLAhVJthQKHblNCa8Q6AEIGjAE#v=onepage&q=flaccid%20intercourse

You may need to copy and paste it into your browser. I would copy and paste the extract but I suspect that may not be allowed.

Thanks Chris
User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 10:04

Thanks for posting the link Chris, a brilliant read!

Pablo

User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 10:29

Just can't get this to work at all on any device. Just shows the book and asks me to buy it


If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade
User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 13:52

That's odd - the link worked fine for me on the laptop and on my phone although not on the ipad.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 26 Feb 2016 at 15:28
Chris J I was so happy for you when I got your message yesterday I was smiling from ear to ear. Good job you and El were home alone !!

C. Chris what an interesting read I would never have thought this possible, wish I had heard of it before.
It is really wonderful how you all share the most intimate information to help each other out here.
Best wishes to you all for a lovely weekend.
Xxx
Mo
User
Posted 27 Feb 2016 at 10:34

Still using pump and muse with little success; I have found that 400 mg of ibuprofen helps with the Muse pain, but should only be used after a meal, which is another restriction. Has anyone tried Muse, and then using the pump. I wonder if the pump would just suck the Muse medication  back out. If I had a lot of Muse I would give it a try, but prescriprions limit the number to one a month-I know its expensive!

User
Posted 27 Feb 2016 at 11:33
Sghk200

What dose of muse are you using, too much muse can have a negative effect.l seem to be getting a better result with 500 rather than the 1000. Not tried the pump after muse, but recently inserted muse then needed to urinate within 20 seconds and expected the worst but still got a big swelling. I still need to stimulate the penis for a full reaction and following an orgasm stimulation can reserrect a flaccid penis a second time. As before read the instructions urinate first then insert muse rub penis between hands for 10 seconds, walk around and keep stimulating for 10 mins. I was trying to do it too soon and sometimes finished up with a fully swollen penis after the event. Rubbing the muse in the penis for 10 seconds should keep it in the penis if you use the pump after, but not tried it so not sure. It is not really a liquid so cannot see the pump pulling the muse out, but correct me if I am wrong.

Stimulation is the key, make sure you are both focused on the job in hand.

I do not use the word erection because although I can get 100 percent of the pre op size it never stands up.

Curious to know if fully recovered men get full pre op erections.

Thanks Chris
User
Posted 27 Feb 2016 at 13:06

Interesting Chris
After the Viridal the other day I was maybe not as long but very thick compared to normal ( probably all the pumping ) and no he didn't stand up but boy was he able , with some " root " as I call it which made it feel normal again and controllable. Ringed pump erections are nowhere near as good. And yes even with this med , he reacted better with plenty of stimulation. He was good for another I think but no time.


Oh , to get even the slightest natural stir ... :-//

Edited by member 27 Feb 2016 at 13:08  | Reason: Not specified


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User
Posted 27 Feb 2016 at 14:03
Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Still using pump and muse with little success; I have found that 400 mg of ibuprofen helps with the Muse pain, but should only be used after a meal, which is another restriction. Has anyone tried Muse, and then using the pump. I wonder if the pump would just suck the Muse medication  back out. If I had a lot of Muse I would give it a try, but prescriprions limit the number to one a month-I know its expensive!



Under NHS guidelines you are entitled to one per week so don't accept this one-a-month malarkey lying down.

If the pump isn't working you are possibly still doing something wrong - do you
- keep the pubic hair very short (or better still, shave)
- use plenty of lube on your pubic skin and on the end and inside of the tube
- have you perfected the technique of transferring the ring from tube to base of penis without breaking the vacuum (from observing J, I think that is the most difficult bit)
- tried combinations of two different rings
- tried a different brand of ring (we had the Osbon Erecaid but used Farnhurst rings)

If you can get engorged in the vacuum, there will be no physical reason not to remain engorged once you place the ring(s)

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 29 Feb 2016 at 10:58

The pumping is OK; finding it a bit cumbersome, and non-romantic having to disappear to use it for 10 min or so is a bit of a turn-off. Im using two rings of the soft silicone variety, harder rings I cant even get on the cylinder.(im 14 months post surgery by the way; PSA now undetectable!!) So im experimenting with Muse (1000mcg) which seems less of a put off; Results are very variable, and judging by the comments above about too much being inhibitory, maybe i should try to get a lower dose. Is inhibition why one shouldn't use cialis together with muse?

User
Posted 29 Feb 2016 at 11:03

I think the ED nurses in general ( including mine ) tell you not to try any two aids at the same time. Very hard to judge and anticipate any response or control it. Best to stick to one thing at a time and alter its dose to get the best effect , unless told otherwise by a health professional. Mixing drugs can certainly cause bad side-effects
Chris


If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade
User
Posted 01 Mar 2016 at 07:02
Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

The pumping is OK; finding it a bit cumbersome, and non-romantic having to disappear to use it for 10 min or so is a bit of a turn-off. Im using two rings of the soft silicone variety, harder rings I cant even get on the cylinder.(im 14 months post surgery by the way; PSA now undetectable!!) So im experimenting with Muse (1000mcg) which seems less of a put off; Results are very variable, and judging by the comments above about too much being inhibitory, maybe i should try to get a lower dose. Is inhibition why one shouldn't use cialis together with muse?



Sghk200

Why do you disappear for 10 minutes, the OH should be part of the process.The smaller rings can be hard to get onto the tube.
There seems to some confusion about how many doses of muse you get a month.I am on multiple medications but under the care of my ED consultant, wise advice from the others not to experiment yourself, there can be some serious consequences.

Good news on the PSA long may it continue.

Thanks Chris.
User
Posted 01 Mar 2016 at 07:24
Great news Chris - we also have great results with viridal. Sometimes too good- takes a while to shift. Occasionally quite close to the four hours. As someone has said, nasal decongestant...
User
Posted 01 Mar 2016 at 09:26
Great Louise
Glad you sorted at last. I can't wait to try again and I got 4 more in two days so no supply probs. I think one a week is enough for us at the moment anyway. I knew I just needed a bigger dose. I bought some decongestant just in case thanks

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade
User
Posted 03 Mar 2016 at 16:21

I'm certainly under a consultant, but when things arent working its natural to try someting else. There are some scientific papers showing benefit of using cialis together with MUSE, and the consultant suggested using ibuprofen to cut down the pain

User
Posted 03 Mar 2016 at 19:07

Generalisation but GPS are not allowed to prescribe Cialis or viagra and Muse or Caverject to the same patient. John had 5mg Cialis (the one a day dose) and Caverject under the supervision of the ED nurse. Later he managed to get Cialis, viagra and Caverject all at the same time but the GP couldn't presribe it - only Xie - and under strict instruction that he must not take the Cialis or viagra 24 hours before or after the injection. Having experienced a 3am trip to A&E with priapism, he would teĺl you it isn't worth the risk.

The cialis/muse research is with daily dose Cialis not 'event' dose.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 04 Mar 2016 at 17:21

So some news. Sorry if too much information but I guess not or you wouldn't be looking at this thread.
Since my great success with the Viridal the other week I have been getting far more tingles down below at all times of the day and night , but when checking nothing there. This morning , at 8 1/2 months post op , I had my very first erection. Nearly brought a tear to my eye tbh. Yes he was pathetic and maybe only a 20% erection but it was definitely an erection responding to stimulation and orgasms are good now too. This has cheered me beyond belief. Yes maybe physical advances but it has to be noted that psychologically the Viridal erection has boosted me , and also there has been a great release of mental stress the last couple of days regarding my treatment.
To be fair I'm more than happy that I can probably get an erection on tap with the Viridal and today when I asked my doctor if I might be able to get 8 per month he said no problem at all which was a result , as we are planning a bit more activity whilst I still have libido.
One thing I would say is that I have been getting very very bored of the pump having seen no results. I have used it virtually every single day from 8 weeks after the op. But I've soldiered on despite this and maybe this is now at last paying off.
So all told this week things are happier in the Chris J camp , and I hope everyone else continues with good fortune. Have a good weekend.
Chris


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User
Posted 04 Mar 2016 at 17:30

Great news for you both Chris,

Persistence pays off. If you had not pumped it up all this time, there may have been no live tissue to respond to the Viridal?

Have a great weekend.

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 04 Mar 2016 at 18:13

Exercise is good for any muscle Chris.

He might have been pathetic but now he's awake. Glad you are happier. Long may it continue

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 04 Mar 2016 at 18:33
Chris

Great news and after a relatively short period of time post op, so hope that it will fully recover in time.

Thanks Chris
User
Posted 04 Mar 2016 at 19:07

Good news Chris, the beast has woken up.


Onwards and UPWARDS.


Cheers


Sandy

User
Posted 23 Mar 2016 at 21:24

Onwards and UPWARDS, love it.

Just to give you guys and girls an update on how im doing,

Post op 10 months - 10 days,

Finally have my hands on a Response 2 pump and have been pumping away for the past 6 weeks, with good results.
Must admit im on my 2nd one already as for some reason the pump handle snapped off while in use. It comes with a lifetime guarantee, im thankful for that. You can imagine the scene and the look i got when i told the wife it just broke!!!

Along with the pump im also taking Viagra 50mg 3 times a week

Things are defiantly improving, when taking a Viagra , with a little encouragement im getting about a 50% filling and a bit of a raise so i conclude the nerves are slowly healing, Hurraaa

But I must add iv lost half a stone in the past 2 months through exercise at the gym/pool and running a little, bloody hard work but im sure it has contributed. Also iv started to to the Kegal exercises again as im still incontinent but i figured it all helps along with a daily dose of Cashew nuts.

Iv a lot still going on in my body even 10 months down the rd but compared to what it could have been im happy enough.

Catch you later

Johny

User
Posted 24 Mar 2016 at 06:41
Hey Johny

Good to hear from you, remember to change hands whilst pumping away or you will have one arm like popeye.

Glad you are having some success with the pump but obviously you were trying too hard and got excited and broke it.

I've been put on 5mg of ciaos per day but still no response tries Viagra but with no nerves spared was told it ain't Gina work.

Anyway been referred to the ED clinic so just need to wait.

Getting RT June/July and need to get an HT (ZOLADEX) implant today. Cannae wait deep joy.

Things could be worse though. Off to work now take care.

Onwards and upwards (hopefully).

Sandy
User
Posted 24 Mar 2016 at 09:06

Good news Johnny, all heading in the right direction so to speak !!

I must admit to a small laugh at the thought of your face when it broke, and then having to tell the wife.

On a day where there is a lot of sadness, a smile and joy for somebody else means a lot

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 08:31

I had an interesting second meeting with an ED Consultant recently, the following points were made by him.

Cialis 5mg per day should be enough to give an erection. Supplementing 5mg daily with a booster of either 10mg or 20mg for an event makes little or no difference, (having tried it, I agree).

He stated "the best recovery is made 6 - 12 months post op", so at or around 12 months (in my case) he said "it is as good as it's going to get"! (based on anecdotal evidence from this forum and generally perceived wisdom on this site I'm a bit disappointed).

"If you take Cialis to achieve erections you'll need to be on it for life, and once you stop taking Cialis you'll revert almost immediately to how you were post - op" (scary).

At the moment I'm lucky, in that I am able (but not on demand) to achieve usable erections, usually when I wake up in the mornings rather than when I'm engaged in sexual activity, which I why I'm at the ED Clinic.

Additionally, I'm also lucky that my doctor's practice has given me prescriptions for / funded Cialis, although I do have concerns that this may not continue for the rest of my life!

I'm 51 weeks post op and not sure whether it was a good, bad or indifferent meeting.

User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 08:59

Hi Pablito
I'm 2 months behind you as you know. Basically zero activity naturally which is very distressing. I guess your Dr's advice is why I wasn't offered Cialis. But I think the evidence HAS to be true that you are getting blood down there 24 hrs which has to helping repair. And I'm just using the pump every day still which is without a doubt at least keeping him fit and healthy. He looks damn well on an injection of Viridal even if I say so myself. Maybe this is your next step to try Alprostadil in the form of pellet cream or injection ( not at the same time as Cialis ). I still hope something is going to happen for me. I totally get the right stirrings and even have to check down there , but to no avail. A friend I made on this site tried Cialis and hated it so stopped. He is now getting full natural erections at 9 months , but not on demand. I guess some people are just lucky. But Lyns husband had RP and RT and HT and he has proper usage back even if it took 2+ years. So let's not give up hope friend.
Best wishes
Chris


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User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 09:13

Well s/he sounds like a bundle of laughs! And is saying completely different to other ED specialists. How confusing for you :-(

As you probably recall, John had 2.5mg (and then later increased to 5mg) daily Cialis but did not take this to get erections. For an 'event', he missed his daily dose and took a Viagra or Levitra instead. He took this for over three years but is certainly not on it for life. Most of the CCGs that do approve it for nerve repair recommend funding the daily dose for a max of 2 years as research suggests that any repair will have happened by then.

General view among medics is that however you are at 2 years post-op is as good as it is going to get. Having said that, John's greatest progress was between months 30-36 and he was gaining natural erections by year 4.

Perhaps the confusion / different views is about the physical ability to get an erection and the emotional impact of PCa. Somewhere in the time between his op and year 4 John progressed to being able to have an erection; whatever physical / mechanical causes of ED had been resolved and it only continued to be a problem in his mind - ED linked to performance anxiety, self-identity crisis, etc. As you can get an erection, you may fall into the same group - it isn't the physical issue that still needs to be resolved but the mind. And I don't think any medic can put a time limit on that!

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 15:24

P


I am almost at the two year anniversary of my RARP, the last couple of months have seen more improvement in tumescence than in the previous 21 months. I did get off to a slow start with my penile rehabilitation due to a stricture. The daily 100mg sildenafil does produce some tumescence and the muse varies from okay to very good, timing is everything.  I was "supposedly" non nerve sparring so anything is a bonus, as my surgeon said there is a network of nerves and something must have survived.   Sorry to repeat myself but you do not need an erection for vaginal intercourse and of course it is spontaneous.


Thanks Chris


 

User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 15:42

I still can't get my head round flaccid sex ( so to speak ). It's definitely about time someone published a sketch , or animation , or used action man and barbie ( not that action man would EVER suffer with ED ). My searches don't bring up much. But interested , being mostly flaccid , most of the time.


If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade
User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 16:14

CJ


Google "scissor sisters position" then pick "images" at the top, scroll down and you will see a sketch of a man and women. 


Good luck and keep the windows shut.


Thanks Chris

User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 17:11

Thanks Chris, it's an excellent position whether flaccid or not!

;-))

User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 20:18

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


I had an interesting second meeting with an ED Consultant recently, the following points were made by him.  


Cialis 5mg per day should be enough to give an erection. Supplementing 5mg daily with a booster of either 10mg or 20mg for an event makes little or no difference, (having tried it, I agree).  It may work for you it may not.  Do you have access to Sildenafil, Viagra?


 


He stated "the best recovery is made 6 - 12 months post op", so at or around 12 months (in my case) he said "it is as good as it's going to get"! (based on anecdotal evidence from this forum and generally perceived wisdom on this site I'm a bit disappointed).  Pablito, you can believe him, who is hypothesising and generalising, or you can believe the true stories you read here, the facts.  My "best recovery" was made recently, that is around 30 months ish post DaVinci.  I thought I was doing well with the results I was getting around 6 to 8 months post op, May 2013.  It continued to improve beyond that and is still improving. Mind you I hardly leave it alone, so it has no chance!  If I am sleeping alone, mostly am these days, and wake up at 4am, I get up and exercise, helps me get back to sleep quickly.    

"If you take Cialis to achieve erections you'll need to be on it for life, and once you stop taking Cialis you'll revert almost immediately to how you were post - op" (scary).  Can not comment on that, I am on 5mg Cilais daily.  Good for circulation and nail growth.  I hope to be on it ad infinitum.     


At the moment I'm lucky, in that I am able (but not on demand) to achieve usable erections, usually when I wake up in the mornings rather than when I'm engaged in sexual activity, which I why I'm at the ED Clinic.  Work on it.  If you can achieve UEs, what is happening to make this occur, what is the stimulus for these?  Replicate that stimulus often, frequently.  Masturbate wherever and whenever you can, as often as you can.  If your bits have the capacity  and ability to perform, then you may wish to do all you can to use them and encourage them with plenty of exercise, and related use.    If you get it up at 4am, FFS use it.  If it happens at lunchtime, use it. Capiche?


Additionally, I'm also lucky that my doctor's practice has given me prescriptions for / funded Cialis, although I do have concerns that this may not continue for the rest of my life!  I was not concerned that my prescription would stop until you mentioned that possibility.  Reggub!


I'm 51 weeks post op EARLY DAYS and not sure whether it was a good, bad or indifferent meeting.  It was nowhere as near as bad as it could have been, and nowhere near as good as it should have been.  But that is not down to you.  From what you are saying here, you appear to have the chance and the likelihood that you will still improve, and you might want to do all you can to ensure that you do, and that means exercise.  No gym subscription needed, no special kit.  Whenever you get the chance, be like NIKE, JUST DO IT!  


He may be an expert in his field, staff at the hospital may address him as "Mr Whatever, he may also be so superhuman so as to be able to delegate the task of his early morning wee and dump to a member of his staff, BUT he is not necessarily correct in his assessment for you, or all other men.  They don't appreciate the impact of ill thought words, generalisations, on us real men, human patients.



All men react differently to treatments.  Unless you do all you can you will not know how much you can recover.


atb


dave


 


 

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 21:13

Interesting that CB interpreted that he was a consultant as in medically qualified and everything. I assumed he was a care assistant or one of those guys from the vacuum manufacturer or- at best- a nurse.

I wonder why I assumed that?

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 21:55

I'd like to ask about pumps and tension rings, whilst there's a target audience on topic- (and maybe others will search this post for the same thing, so it's not a hijack..)


I've just been to see my GP about a pump- he was willing to prescribe one, but he was unsure which was suitable. Looking quizically at his computer screen, He offered "ErecAid 'Classic', or  ErecAid 'Esteem'". Reading further, he began to reel off the various tension rings available, size wise and tension level, as if this was unintelligible to him.


As I didn't know what I required, I thought I'd ask on the PCUK forum later this evening .


Having done a google search and looked at previous posts here, I guess it's the 'Esteem' to go for,  which I see has two tension rings as standard. I guess the ring fit is critical -Did anyone have to get additional rings? If so, what sort should I be possibly asking  for?   Do they need replacing often?


Thanks, in anticipation of advice.

User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 22:10

Hi
Many people recommend the Erec-aid and I've never seen it. I was demonstrated and supplied with a Soma--erect from iMedicare. Look it up. It's a very very reliable piece of kit with good construction. But ideally you should have a demo and fitting done professionally as there are different diameter tubes and different sized rings. I was supplied a very new type of ring which is super stretchy and tight and very long lasting re-usable. I'm very happy with this product indeed. I have the NHS prescription codes for the pump and rings. Maybe have a look ??


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User
Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 22:12

If you go back to the previous page in this conversation there is quite a lot of info. in existing posts.
We bought a Bathmate, but I will see what the CNS at the 'orange clinic', who I am seeing tomorrow, suggests for me.
Happy pumping!
Henry

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Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 22:24

Aah. I may have got that wrong? Won't be the first or last time I have made an error. Consultant I took as one of The Misters that stroll about as if they own the places, in white coats. I have had less than satisfactory experiences with them.


Allowing for the fact that he might not be a demi-god that delegates morning functiosn, the majority of my opinion stands, until and unless further corrected.


atb


dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
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Posted 19 Apr 2016 at 22:47

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


If you go back to the previous page in this conversation there is quite a lot of info. in existing posts.
We bought a Bathmate, but I will see what the CNS at the 'orange clinic', who I am seeing tomorrow, suggests for me.
Happy pumping!
Henry



I've never heard of an 'orange clinic' before.


It's the tension ring spec that's confusing with the ErecAid and I haven't seen anything up-post to help shape my feedback to the GP so he can prescribe the right rings. I saw Lyn mentioned the erecaid, but used a different ring make. Instead of an ED clinic, I  was told by my consultant that the instructions will be in the pumps' box. The GP will do the prescribing. 


There are Low, medium and high tension options in medium and large ring sizes. Size,  I can estimate, but tension required is beyond me, and I'm wondering if I'll need replacement rings if they have a short life. 


Anyone had experience of the erecaid rings?

 
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